September 26th's update is here! TLDR? Here's the summary.

Next thread here. Sorry, the threads start breaking down at above 1000 comments.

edit: I've found a number of sources to use, mostly based on analysis rather than purely event reporting. I've kept some of the better mainstream sources, but I decided that I was gonna cut the six most aggravating sources out entirely: NYT, WaPo, Bloomberg, Forbes, Business Insider, and Politico. I'm not yet sure if I have enough for fully fledged updates (or maybe eventhe new material is too much) so I will do tomorrow's update with what I've found so far, and if I think I need more, I will add more. Unless I managed to get it just right the first time, I think I will end up iterating over the next week towards the best balance of lots of good sources that don't take too much time to sift through.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists, for the “buh Zeleski is a jew?!?!” people.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can, thank you.


Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map, who is an independent youtuber with a mostly neutral viewpoint.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict and, unlike most western analysts, has some degree of understanding on how war works. He is a reactionary, however.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.

https://t.me/asbmil ~ ASB Military News, banned from Twitter.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster - crowd-funded U.S journalist, mostly pro-Russian, works on the ground near warzones to report news and talk to locals.

https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.

https://t.me/rybar ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

With the entire western media sphere being overwhelming pro-Ukraine already, you shouldn't really need more, but:

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


  • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    It would be pretty fucking embarrassing for NATO if Russia did manage to hit a pipeline in the middle of the Baltic Sea, presumably without being detected as nobody appears to have any direct evidence that Russia did it.

    Like, there's no way of hitting that (drone, missile, bomb, whatever) which doesn't look bad. What else could they secretly hit if they can strike things undetected in the middle of NATO?

    I'm reminded of that stupid NATO Sea article.

    • TheOtherwise [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      If Russia did this, then yeah 100%. But fuck, I'm really struggling to find a coherent argument why Russia would do this. The overwhelming winner here is the US.

      I honestly think this is one the biggest events of the whole war. No longer just an economic war for the US against Europe (and primarily Western Europe), but a hot one. Of course, not out in the open. If this really was the US, then the whole layout of the current world's setup just drastically changed.

      Economic warfare is one thing....actively taking out critical infrastructure--whether it was in use or not-- is another

      • FLAMING_AUBURN_LOCKS [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        yeah, this changes the playing field massively, and virtually no one outside of europe seems to be paying attention. this is without a doubt a massive ratcheting up of tension, no matter who is responsible. this is a “thing that shows up in the history textbook chapters about the leadup to the war” kind of event.

      • AssadCurse [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Germans spent how much money on that pipeline that is now damaged and unpressurized (which results in further damage)?

        How cucked is Germany? That’s the real thing we will find out about

      • Justanotherone [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I honestly have a hard time figuring out why the usa wants Europe this impoverished. What's the long game.

        • TheOtherwise [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Capitalism in decay -- our masters here in the US need a new front to exploit. It's not that they want them impoverished, it's that they want to control their industry. Which will happen once it all goes to hell

          But in the short term--this move ensures Germany won't lose it's resolve when its people start to feel the brunt of winter.

          • Justanotherone [none/use name]
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            edit-2
            2 years ago

            So vulture capitalism. Cool

            I'm sure this will work exactly as planned and wont blow up in the usa face

        • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          It's a new frontier, if Europe is immiserated then we can dismantle their remaining industry, impose austerity and siphon their best and brightest while their infrastructure decays. One of the first things the British did in India was to deindustrialize their budding industries.

        • Teekeeus
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          3 months ago

          deleted by creator

          • Justanotherone [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I don't think it's this. America doesn't make anything. I legit think this is just dementia setting in on the empire

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I wonder how Russia will respond to this. What could they hit to retaliate?

      • Teapot [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The argument for Russia doing this is it's a good excuse not to supply Germany with gas. They may have contracts to supply gas that they want plausible deniability for breaching

        That said, I don't think Russia did this

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          If Russia wanted plausible deniability they could just have done "maintenance" forever. Blowing up their own pipeline and a reason for Germany to sue for peace just doesn't make sense.

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          But why would Russia not want to supply Germany with gas? If Germany started buying Russian gas again, wouldn't other countries in Europe start considering abandoning the sanctions as well? Damaging the western consensus hegemony would be a massive win for Russia.

        • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Russia could do what they did to NS1 with their "indefinite maintenance".