It's wild how these people will fall into tirades about the slavic brainpan predisposing the Russians to mass murder on one day and then assure everybody that we should prefer Ukrainian refugees over Syrians because they are so similar to us.
whiteness has always been a poorly defined concept malleable enough to fulfill whatever the current prevailing political needs are of those who wield it
Fun fact: per DNA evidence at archeological sites, at least some peoples of Ireland several thousand years ago did have dark skin. And at least sometimes, blue eyes.
Doesn't make the line you're mentioning less dumb and racist, I just think it's interesting that they could be slightly right about a part that really just reveals holocene humanity was more interesting and varied than we usually think.
Everyone was dark skinned 10k years ago. Ligth skin is an adaptation to the convination of a vitamin poor diet and low uv radiation. If your population lives way up north but have a good diet like eskimos or mongols or siberians you are not as white. If your population has a shity diet but live further south you are not as white.
I think the general consensus is that light skin evolved a few times and some of those times were at least 20-30k years ago. There were folks with different amounts of melanin running around for a long time.
Oviously the first instances of those genes are cery old. Maybe even neanderthal old. But selection preassure for them to become dominant in a population is due to vitamin d deficieny in pregnancy. And that is mostly an agriculturalist thing. But if there is enough sunligth its not as bad. That explains the north south gradient in skintones as well as darker skinned huntergatherers in high latitudes. And that diserent version of the gene were selectd in west and east asia.
Well, they all at least claim to have royal blood, lol.
The Irish in particular have stories about people from Spain coming over hundreds of years ago, part of the other legend around being Black Irish (in this case, meaning darker hair and brown eyes but still light skin).
The original population had to come from europe. But continental europe was to coold except for a few areas. Spain was the closest to the british islands. And so it is likley they went from there. The legend is probably originated in aome pun as such things often are but in this case turned out correct. If mil lived at the end of the last ice age
It's weird to me Russia isn't considered at least partially European. Like eastern Russia is definitely in Asia but you can't tell me they don't have way more cultural and linguistic ties to Europe than Asia. The line is also stupid and not super geographic.
It's wild how these people will fall into tirades about the slavic brainpan predisposing the Russians to mass murder on one day and then assure everybody that we should prefer Ukrainian refugees over Syrians because they are so similar to us.
whiteness has always been a poorly defined concept malleable enough to fulfill whatever the current prevailing political needs are of those who wield it
reminder that the irish, the pastiest motherfuckers alive, were considered inferior for centuries
not just that there were theories that the Irish were secretly black people
Fun fact: per DNA evidence at archeological sites, at least some peoples of Ireland several thousand years ago did have dark skin. And at least sometimes, blue eyes.
Doesn't make the line you're mentioning less dumb and racist, I just think it's interesting that they could be slightly right about a part that really just reveals holocene humanity was more interesting and varied than we usually think.
That's not surprising at all Europe has a long maritime history and is next to both Africa and the middle east.
Everyone was dark skinned 10k years ago. Ligth skin is an adaptation to the convination of a vitamin poor diet and low uv radiation. If your population lives way up north but have a good diet like eskimos or mongols or siberians you are not as white. If your population has a shity diet but live further south you are not as white.
I think the general consensus is that light skin evolved a few times and some of those times were at least 20-30k years ago. There were folks with different amounts of melanin running around for a long time.
Oviously the first instances of those genes are cery old. Maybe even neanderthal old. But selection preassure for them to become dominant in a population is due to vitamin d deficieny in pregnancy. And that is mostly an agriculturalist thing. But if there is enough sunligth its not as bad. That explains the north south gradient in skintones as well as darker skinned huntergatherers in high latitudes. And that diserent version of the gene were selectd in west and east asia.
All people on both british islands are decendants of king mil of galicia(spain). That is were the mame morarity comes from
Well, they all at least claim to have royal blood, lol.
The Irish in particular have stories about people from Spain coming over hundreds of years ago, part of the other legend around being Black Irish (in this case, meaning darker hair and brown eyes but still light skin).
The original population had to come from europe. But continental europe was to coold except for a few areas. Spain was the closest to the british islands. And so it is likley they went from there. The legend is probably originated in aome pun as such things often are but in this case turned out correct. If mil lived at the end of the last ice age
...is this why the Demoman is a black Scottish cyclops?
The Scottish != the Irish
there were no such theories about the Scottish as the Scottish were just considered British and thus equals to the English and Welsh
Just the idea that Ukraine is somehow in Europe is still shocking to me.
It's weird to me Russia isn't considered at least partially European. Like eastern Russia is definitely in Asia but you can't tell me they don't have way more cultural and linguistic ties to Europe than Asia. The line is also stupid and not super geographic.