Domestic violence, false imprisonment changes of a girlfriend from January 2020 that were hidden until now.
This union buster is a piece of garbage! Who would have guessed?
It's not really clear to me how they were able to conceal the fact that he was arrested, charged, plead and released way back in May 2020? Is that just $$$?
:surprised-pika: for real though anyone surprised by this? Always felt Roiland was a centrist creep and self centered as well as some type of "new age creative". Now I forget was it him or Dan Harmond that had the ending credit claymation for Rick and Morty focus on his divorce and love life? Cuss I always felt that was unhealthy as all fuck and a big red flag.
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.
― Kurt Vonnegut
L-look muh-Morty, I turned myself into a, into a parable on being a fence sitting piece of shit, funniest shit Morty. Now I'm gonna go beat my wife Morty.
The pre-pilot short animation that preceded Rick and Morty was "what if Back to the Future but Doc Brown was a pedophile?" so the "ironic" Roiland chuddery was there from the beginning.
Also pedophile Mr. Jellybean in season 1. Why is it that chuds love putting pedophiles in their media?
They find human suffering funny, especially when it punches down, as it does when it involves abusing children, which is a significant part of Rick and Morty's runtime where Morty is the show's punching bag and more often than not the sexual abuse target. :libertarian-alert:
Wanting to feel represented in media is the most relatable, human thing about them
:so-true: Duuude, I have the idea for the funniest character ever. Get this: Pedophile Hitler
It's just the same edgy teenage boy mindset that motivated 4chan
He's scolded later, but he doesn't actually have to change and doesn't receive lasting consequences and just sulks and escapes the scolding because edgy show money printer go brrr. :pickle-liz: :brrrrrrrrrrrr:
I remember watching a behind the scenes where Roiland gets drunk to "method act" Rick being drunk. He becomes a complete pain in the ass for all the other crew to work with. One of the female co-workers meekly says something like "haha, yeah you get to have all the fun but it makes extra work for us sometimes." Harmon then proceeds to mimic playing a tiny violin and says something like "Aww poor baby! Deal with it!"
Well that took no effort to find. Nightmare working conditions.
https://youtu.be/QQ0Yn1fqugg?t=92
I remember watching a behind the scenes where Roiland gets drunk to “method act” Rick being drunk. He becomes a complete pain in the ass for all the other crew to work with. One of the female co-workers meekly says something like “haha, yeah you get to have all the fun but it makes extra work for us sometimes.” Harmon then proceeds to mimic playing a tiny violin and says something like “Aww poor baby! Deal with it!”
taps the Kurt Vonnegut sign again :disgost:
What a worthless fucking "actor" having to get drunk to do VA lines, also fuck guess Harmon is also just a piece of crap as well but has a better cover, God I'm sick of edgy whiny dudebro writers thinking they're a gift from fucking God
Dan Harmon was always a lazy piece of shit who relied way too much on 'being meta' to be funny. I mean, look at how he treats Britta as a character even when she is objectively right, and it plays out that she is right.
"Ohhhhh but I hate how PREACHY the SJW character is gotta shit on her", yeah once again scratching a liberal reveals the fash beneath. Remember when Dan went all frightened about Jan 6th and got a gun and did a whole twitter tirade about it?
lol yeah, I recall hearing about that. It's like "Dude, you will be fine, all the chuds think you are funny because you have the same opinions as them, just ironically."
And then he made that weird episode with all the Nazi realities that just got memed by the right even more, what a fuckin lib
John Dunsworth, the actor that played Mr. Lahey in Trailer Park Boys, was a teetotaler. His acting drunk (and acting very drunk) was just very good acting. He was also a wholesome guy as far as I know about him.
Always loved Trailer Park Boys, glad to hear Lahey was played by all accounts a decent fellow
This union buster is a piece of garbage! Who would have guessed?
The comments section of that article is blatantly filled with union buster sockpuppets.
I am shocked, most people DON'T abuse others, even among Musk fans. This is some horrible shit he did, that is beyond the normal scumbag capitalist shit, and the fact he managed to keep it quiet for 2 years?! That is extremely weird.
and the fact he managed to keep it quiet for 2 years?! That is extremely weird.
Among rich and connected bourgeoise that's normal and working as intended. :doomer:
A lot of money was made from covering it up. Game deal, fortnite events, music, toys, multiple tv shows.
A huge investment in this guy.
Ah yes once again this was in Orange County, CA. Truly a cesspit
After 6 pm everything is 1 hour by car away when you get home.
Fuck that place.
Tbf Reagan was born and grew up in Illinois, he was merely adopted by the caifornia pedophiles and realtor fascists
I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone, except when i have this overwhelming urge to hurt or anger a ton of people :very-intelligent:
It was a very white comment (ok fine not all Whites do this, just most, and all it takes is most)
They'll just literally contradict themselves within the same sentence, but they'll be so busy "emoting" with themselves that they'll feel like they actually said something substantive.
I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone
if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people1 = 2
if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people
He just had to. He just had to make a cartoon about (CW: extreme violence, including sexual, against children)
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"The cartoon begins with two young boys who decide to go for a swim in the ocean naked. They get into the water and one child drowns and is shown under the water bleeding and being eaten by something. It just gets worse from there. The other boy then gets out of the water to go get a snack. A naked adult backs up toward him and defecates into the child’s mouth. The next cartoon features a character that looks like a shriveled raisin going to his home, where he has two children tied up who are shaking and scared. Above them is a clock with a penis and a swinging testicle. The gray thing tells the children that since he’s been sexually gratified he must get rid of them. He then takes a knife and skins one child’s face and wears it as his own while he skins the other child’s face. In the next cartoon, a man in the park starts asking a child if he wants to see something, promising not to “stick my dick in you.” Then he pulls out a knife, stabs the child in the stomach, and proceeds to rape the knife wound while yelling “I’m f*cking the stab hole”
(@walletbaby summarized it; I didn't watch it myself and I'm glad I didn't)
That's it. That's the context of Roiland's :reddit-logo: post. Never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone.
I never liked Roiland but now I can't help but wonder what we don't know about him yet, the hateful creep.
It's mainly white because most white dudes I know (being :lmayo: myself) don't ever grow up from being edgy teens or reflect on shit, then they get into positions that make sure that the reflection cannot happen.
He said he had no intention in the quote, so that makes the quote self-reflective which means he's not so bad! :sus:
ah yes, that's the "baby i never meant to hurt you all the thousands of times i did hurt you, that was always just because i cannot comprehend that other human beings have feelings and opinions different from mine" part of the statement
I remember when he said he "loved" his workers while in the same rant also said they could be easily replaced by an algorithm.
I’d also say it perhaps a bit more self reflective than what you’d get from most edgy comedy type dudes.
It wasn't reflective enough for him to not beat his girlfriend and lock her in his house.
Well, obviously, but that statement quoted isn’t about that so…
Not defending him or anything
:fry: Because that statement came from a vacuum and every part of Justin Roiland is an airtight sealed compartment where nothing interacts with anything else.
It was to some extent evidence of his shittiness because he has both been a shitty person to his girlfriend (and before that, his own workers) and used his money and connections to hide that overt shittiness for roughly 3 years, if not longer. If you're "not defending him," what are you trying to do here?
You seemed to be really going out of your way to defend that one quote by one shitty person, a quote that claims he's just pretending to be shitty and "gets off on shocking/making people uncomfortable" but also "never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone" which seems kind of contradictory goals. Also, they clearly didn't apply to his girlfriend years later. Or his workers for that matter.
Contextually, I will continue to argue that that quote isn't doing him any favors in the present and is more of a case builder for him being a bad person all along. :edgeworth-shrug:
That oh so wholesome "self reflection" was apparently kind of ineffective if he winds up being a worker abuser and domestic violence perpetrator years afterward.
Edit: if you’re gonna keep editing your comments can you put it under “edit” so it doesn’t look like I’m ignoring half the shit you’re saying.
I only fixed some typos. It's kind of a habit of mine to rearrange things I wrote for a minute or two after I wrote them. What I said is still there.
Please don’t act like I was saying “woah Justin is such a deep dude who struggles with his demons! I want to slobber on his thick knob! Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!”
I made no such accusations of you. I expressed bewilderment over going that far over a dubious quote for someone you claimed you weren't defending.
I did add more content, now that you mention it. I sincerely apologize for understating what I added. It is a bad habit to keep tweaking what I wrote instead of just getting it perfect before I put it down.
We can just agree to disagree about what we were arguing about.
I am sorry for doing that, especially when you were still writing your reply.
I should know better. I do sometimes add "EDIT" notes but not nearly enough. I sincerely appreciate the reminder of how annoying and potentially worse it can be to be too fast and loose with editing.
I do the same shit, it comes from typing shit out at work and then re reading it. Helps to think of the reply button as the same as "send email"
Helps to think of the reply button as the same as “send email”
That's a good way to see it. I should start doing that.
No fighting over something so stupid! Go argue about outdoor cats or revisionism or something else productive.
No fight here. I was called out for being too fast and loose with editing right after sending without an "EDIT" note, and I own up to that being a bad habit.
I get what you're saying and it was just a random reddit post (about sexual assault in his cartoon), but this bit:
... I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone. And often times if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people, I’ll donate a bunch of money to an appropriate charity to make up for it.
Reads like like one of those narcissist's prayer memes; "I've never done that. I'm not sorry that I do that. I have atoned with money."
I'm guessing he didn't say that because #MeToo was at its height, Dan Harmon had just gone through his own confession, and R&M's viewership is like 40% women. He almost certainly received coaching about all of this at some point, and probably didn't want to piss off the money god.
not some official interview with the press.
Doesn't have to be. A PR consultant's job is to stop you from spilling more gasoline on the fire where you are. They teach you how to behave in public, not just in one interview. Typing cartoon network "pr consultant" into google brought up a lot of linked-in profiles, so they certainly use them.
Ultimately you're right, we'd have to be psychic to truly understand what he meant in that moment, and we're left to our own modern interpretation. The history of shitting on his employees, abusing a woman, and defending people like Dave Chapelle makes my interpretation very unkind.
Edit: Sorry if I was playing too fast and loose with editing, simply trying to be clearer. Hope we're all good!
He did write that 9 years ago and then got richer, more connected, and more powerful after that. It apparently made him worse.
It's not much but he went from terrible comedy to a really weird and depressing Netflix covid special, and apologizing and regretting much of his early stuff. It's not much, but I do get a sense that he had a some kind of awareness of his whiteness.
Eh, this is kinda weird but I’d also say it perhaps a bit more self reflective than what you’d get from most edgy comedy type dudes.
eh not really
Sometime I get off on shocking/ making people uncomfortable
:stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:
Roiland made a cartoon, posted on his website, about raping, torturing, and killing children. It's so graphic I can't show it here. If you want to watch it (which I don't recommend), it's at this link. http://roilandtv.com/unbelievable-tales/ The cartoon begins with two young boys who decide to go for a swim in the ocean naked. They get into the water and one child drowns and is shown under the water bleeding and being eaten by something. It just gets worse from there.
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The other boy then gets out of the water to go get a snack. A naked adult backs up toward him and defecates into the child's mouth.
The next cartoon features a character that looks like a shriveled raisin going to his home, where he has two children tied up who are shaking and scared. Above them is a clock with a penis and a swinging testicle. The gray thing tells the children that since he's been sexually gratified he must get rid of them.
He then takes a knife and skins one child's face and wears it as his own while he skins the other child's face.
In the next cartoon, a man in the park starts asking a child if he wants to see something, promising not to "stick my dick in you." Then he pulls out a knife, stabs the child in the stomach, and proceeds to rape the knife wound while yelling "I'm f*cking the stab hole"
These are the funny "jokes" we are all supposed to be enlightened enough to understand. Raping, torturing, and killing children. This cartoon was made in 2012, long before the rumors of Hollywood pedophile rings were swirling after the #MeToo outbreak.
Taps the sign
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be.
― Kurt Vonnegut
EDIT: Also, Maya Angelou said this.
https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/maya_angelou_383371
From the website
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This could have been more palatable to the audience if I had focused on selling the concept instead of trying to gross the audience out/ shock them. At this point in time, all I wanted to do was listen to an audience freak out. So I took this great idea about a creepy kids show host who is also kidnapping kids and just went balls out and made it totally fucked up. I mean, the foundational concept was dark and creepy to begin with, but I could have crafted it in a easily followable, ultimately satisfying way. I fully understood this going in. I didn’t care. I wanted so bad to just make something insane. That’s what drove me. Insanity. Confusing people. I want to make more stuff like this. The audience at 101 hated it. There’s no money in stuff like this. Side note: There are some conceptual/ visual similarities between this show and Mr. Sprinkles. Check out the exterior shot of Crumply’s house and then check out Mister Sprinkles house. This is also the first appearance of Little Dipper!
How can he hear himself think when he's jerking himself off that fiercely for being an edgy genius at the same time? :cringe:
Nobody had ever thought about violence against children, he's the greatest mind of our generation
Moral Orel is a bleak show but there's a sort of sympathy in its writing for everything Orel goes through. It doesn't really do "HAHAHA CHILD IS SUFFERING HAHAHA SERVES HIM RIGHT FOR CARING ABOUT THINGS HAHAHA" stuff.
It was one of the most emotionally complex things I've ever seen put to television. It could easily have been a simple 'make fun of religion' show, but the creator really saw the complexity and humanity of everything. Shame only weirdo stoners and teens watched it.
Shame only weirdo stoners and teens watched it.
:side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:
Spoilers ahead for those who haven't watched it.
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The scene where Clay, a character you absolutely despise by this point, goes off in the bar about how you try so hard to get something, only to realize it's not what you want, but then fight just as hard to keep it, has to be one of the saddest, most pathetic things I've ever seen in my life. But I've known so many older men who are like that. And then they don't even bother to martyr him the way he wants them to, the only way he knows how to process things. But you still hate him, he still isn't a good person, and at no point are you actually supposed to sympathize with the choices he has made.
There's also
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Reverend Putty, who is at best an unhelpful and cynical character but it's still hard to not feel some sympathy for how joyless and thankless his job is, even if he's quite a villain at times. The eggs thumping on his window when he was alone on Halloween was sad.
Really if this gets Rick and Morty cancelled I don't think adult swim will have anything left really.
Over time, the supply of "is actually wholesome chungus 100% but only pretends to be a hateful edgelord in an ironic satirical joking way it's just a prank bro" entertainers seems to be dwindling.
Satire is impossible, cynicism never ends well, and people are exactly what they look like they are.
I wouldn't say it's impossible, but especially in the present it's probably ill-advised. The "ironic" nazis of 4chan were an early warning about that.
The remaining entertainers that are "just a prank bro" about hurting people and saying bigoted and hateful things don't know, don't care, or are wearing a mask.
This is some of the least surprising news I've read in a while. Knowing what I knew about his attitude toward his own workers, he was another nihilistic John Kricfalusi waiting to be exposed.
