Image is of Wang Yi, Member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and Director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, delivering a speech at the Munich Security Conference in 2023.
China has put forward a quite general peace proposal, which I imagine is both for Ukraine and also meant to be a general guide for solving conflicts in the future, with 12 points. Unfortunately it has no lobsters, nor dragons of chaos.
These 12 points are, as follows: respect the sovereignty of all countries and all countries are equal; abandon Cold War mentalities; cease hostilities; resume peace talks; resolve humanitarian crises; protect civilians and POWs; keep nuclear power plants safe (what a jab!); reduce strategic risks (that is, nuclear war); facilitate grain exports; stop unilateral sanctions; keep industrial and supply chains stable - the economy is not a weapon; and promote post-conflict reconstruction.
TeleSUR goes into more depth on each point for those interested.
Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.
Here is the archive of important pieces of analysis from throughout the war that we've collected.
February 27th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.
February 28th's update is here on the site and here in the comments.
March 1st's update is here on the site and here in the comments.
March 3rd's update is here in the comments.
March 4th's update is here in the comments.
Links and Stuff
American anti-war rally on March 18th by left groups!
Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Add to the above list if you can, thank you.
Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins
Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have good analysis (though also a couple bad takes here and there)
Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are fairly brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. The Duran, of which he co-hosts, is where the chuddery really begins to spill out.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the Ukrainian warzones.
Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.
Telegram Channels
Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.
Pro-Russian
https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ Gleb Bazov, banned from Twitter, referenced pretty heavily in what remains of pro-Russian Twitter.
https://t.me/asbmil ~ Now rebranded as Battlefield Insights, they do infrequent posts on the conflict.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/riafan_everywhere ~ Think it's a government news org or Federal News Agency? Russian language.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Front news coverage. Russian langauge.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of the really big pro-Russian (except when they're being pessismistic, which is often) telegram channels focussing on the war. Russian language.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.
Pro-Ukraine
Any Western media outlet that is even vaguely liberal (and quite a few conservative ones too).
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.
Last week's discussion post.
There's an ongoing incident on the border of Bryansk, in Russia. There's confused and conflicting reports but the general situation is that somewhere around 100 Ukrainian saboteurs entered a couple villages and have started shooting Russian people, including quite young children, and blowing up infrastructure. They have taken people hostage inside residential buildings.
edit: More information is coming out. That Ukrainians killed a ten year old child is apparently about as confirmed as we're gonna get for now. The hostage-taking is still unconfirmed. The villages attacked are very small, less than 200 people each, so not very difficult to assault with a 50-100 man team. Whether Ukraine is actually trying to hold the village in some kind of mini-mini-offensive, or if it was a planned terrorist attack in order to try and undermine Russian morale, I don't know yet. I think the latter is more likely to be true, as the recent drone offensive by Ukraine seemed to be mostly aimed to cause panic, and this is very shortly following on from that. I think it will have the exact opposite effect in Russia and only harden resolve against Ukraine, but Ukraine does follow Nazi-Arming Terrorist Organization tactics after all.
Apparently Putin is hosting an emergency meeting of the Security Council soon(though I've heard this kind of rumour before in relation to previous incidents and it hasn't always been true).edit: Peskov has confirmed my suspicion that there won't be a meeting of the Security Council today, but there will be one tomorrow (unsure if this was already going to happen or not, but I imagine it probably was).
edit: Ukraine is trying to pass off the attack as one carried out by the "Russian Volunteer Corps", which I'm assuming is implying that it was a rebel group that did it and not a Ukrainian group. Yeah, real convincing, dipshits. It's literally a few miles away from the Ukrainian border.
edit: the child/children who were shot at were rushed to hospital and have survived.
Kadyrov: “It is necessary to deal with all the participants in the sortie to the Bryansk region in the most severe way, as harshly and even cruelly as possible. Shoot to kill. To deal not only with them, but also to bring to justice their families, who may live in Russia. Check them thoroughly and carefully. Experience shows that without their cooperation, indulgence and approval, such terrorist acts do not occur."
as we all know, it's a sign that you're totally winning when you have to resort to sending Oskar Dirlevangerski to gun down children in tiny undefended villages
But Russia is the terrorist state.
Does make me wonder if the westerner reaction is gonna be "This is good actually, those Russians had it coming to them!" or "Actually this is a false flag attack, those were Russians dressed as Ukrainians killing children" or "This isn't really a massacre, as we all know, you can only call it a massacre if it comes from the Bucha region of Ukraine, otherwise it's just a sparkling mass killing"
70% will say false flag. 30% will say Russian should get a taste of its own medicine. Then as more info comes out 70% will say "all's fair..." and 30% will say "murder all the children in Russia"
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Ukrainians on their way to do everything they accuse Russia of doing
In the Bryansk region, several people were taken hostage in a store - RIA Novosti
MOSCOW, March 2 - RIA Novosti. In the Bryansk region, several local residents were taken hostage, a spokesman for emergency services told RIA Novosti. "Preliminarily, several people were captured in a store in the village of Lyubechan," the source said.
The Center for Public Relations of the FSB confirmed that in the Klimovsky district of the Bryansk region "measures are being taken to destroy armed Ukrainian nationalists who have violated the state border." The operation is being carried out jointly with the forces of the Ministry of Defense.
Earlier today, the governor of the region, Oleksandr Bogomaz , said that Ukrainian saboteurs had infiltrated the village of Lubechane . They fired at the car, killing a local resident and wounding a child. In addition, in the village of Sushany, which is also located in the Klimovsky district, a residential building caught fire from a shell dropped from a Ukrainian drone. On February 3, the authorities of the Bryansk region extended the yellow level of terrorist danger until further notice. It implies an enhanced mode of operation of the special services, citizens are advised to be vigilant and assist the security forces.
Just carpet bomb the nazi state tbh
The Ukrainian people are suffering a massive propaganda machine and a concerted effort to build such a nazi state with a lot of support from outside.
Nobody is looking to destroy Ukraine, not even the Russians themselves. The majority of people are not Nazis, even though the longer this continues more and more people will support become nazis and support it.
But if you need a reality check just look at the steps the Ukrainian army is having to take to find more men to fight. Literally filmed just last week.
In Transcarpathia, another ‘willing’ citizen joins the cannon fodder battalion. ‘Western values’ going strong...
Forced conscription in Odessa continues as well...
These are not men ready and willing to go out there and commit crimes in name of nazism, they are having to abduct people on the street in order to keep going.
The war wont end by doing the same shit they do, even the Russians know this, they go after infraestructure and military stuff, meanwhile Ukraine is still aimlessly bombing Donestk.
It's important to remember that Zelensky campaigned as a peace president with the idea that he was going to stop warring with Donbas. Ordinary Ukrainians voted for him on that promise. It's only after he came into power that he did a full 180 on his stated policies. So that's what you should look towards to figure out what normal Ukrainians wanted pre-invasion.
That's a pretty fashy take.
'Fascism is when Nazis are killed '
Carpet bombing a whole country without regard for civilian casualties, even if it is run by nazis is still pretty fashy.
I have nothing against killing nazis and I'm even willing to accept that some non nazis getting killed in the process but if you don't care how many innocents die just to own the nazis the you are just as bad as any nazi.
Yeah it's why the amerikkkan bombing in the middle east is evil despite the fact that isis is not good either
I didn't say they should carpet bomb civilian centres; they should carpet bomb the nazi field armies.
I'm sure Russia would love it if the Nazis weren't hiding behind civilians but they are. There aren't nazi field armies. There are a few nazi squads hiding behind lines of trenches filled with pressganged conscripts with little to no training.
Yes there are lots of nazis in ukraine but they are not the majority they just happen to hold key positions and have backing from the USA. 75% of Ukrainians voted for a president who's only campaign promise was ending the civil war. Unfortunately he was just an actor and the nazis rewrote his character after the first few episodes.
I see red every time a fresh pogrom comes out of Israel but even if 60% of Jewish people are zionists (a guess) that doesn't mean that we should become anti-Semites. You cant blame every individual for the actions of the state even if a majority of the people support the actions of the state.