I was debating with a lib who argued that Lenin was a murderer and kept talking about how 200,000 people died in the Red Terror. I responded by saying you could say the same thing about the founding fathers, after all, all those civilians wouldn't have died if some rich landowners just payed their taxes.

Anyway, how do you guys respond to liberals when they shit their pants about stuff like this?

    • DoubleShot [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      My experience too. Because no one who actually believes the atrocity propaganda believes it after careful study of the facts. They wanna hate communism so they accept the 100 billion number and aren't going to listen to anything you say otherwise.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        reminds me of this passage

        The kitten-burners seem to fulfill some urgent need. They give us someone we can clearly and correctly say we’re better than. Their extravagant cruelty makes us feel better about ourselves because we know that we would never do what they have done. They thus function as signposts of depravity, reassuring the rest of us that we’re Not As Bad As them, and thus letting us tell ourselves that this is the same thing as us being good.

        from https://redsails.org/false-witnesses/

        • DoubleShot [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think that's the purpose of the propaganda push for "communism killed 100 million" during the cold war. Convince Americans communists will kill X number of people, then you're justified in killing X-1 to stop them.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      Most of us started in this despicable state. Something breaks open that psychic prison, or we wouldn’t have this forum at all.