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  • mkultrawide [any]
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    2 years ago

    No, that's not accounting fiction. The DIF exists and it's assets were valued at ~$100B last week.

    Whether or not the FDIC ceiling should have been raised is again a different question, and one in which I lean toward "No":

    I’ve been going back and forth on this. I’m starting to lean towards that they shouldn’t have insured depositors and should have guaranteed payroll up to a certain amount instead. These companies put all of their eggs into one basket because it paid a higher return, which means higher risk. Not only the bank, but many of their customers have fought against regulation or stayed quiet while the banking industry and SVB pushed to be exempted from regulation. If they want their cash fully insured, then depositories should, at the very least, be regulated like public utilities.

    https://hexbear.net/post/256772/comment/3313649

    The definition of a bailout is the government stepping in to save a company from collapse. That did not happen for any of the three banks. Their shareholder equity and the creditors claims have been wiped out. Whether or not insuring deposits counts as bailing out depositors is up for debate, I can see that going both ways. The other banks that are getting to participate in this security swap program are getting bailed out.

      • mkultrawide [any]
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        2 years ago

        Why are you saying they’re being drawn from one place and not the other when it does not matter?

        Because it does matter. The DIF is funded by premiums assessed to banks by the FDIC. The FDIC is separate from the Fed and doesn't have money printer capabilities the same way the Fed or Treasury do with this new securities swap program.

        If capitalists wanted to cover their counterparty risk a mechanism exists for that, which we all became familiar with after 2008: credit-default swaps.

        Credit-default swaps are for bonds, not bank deposits. They could have used CDARS or ICS up to a certain amount to have their deposits fully insured, which again goes back to the point in my quote that they put all their eggs into one basket in return for higher interest rates on their deposits.

        There is no compelling argument against calling this a bailout

        What's SVB's current stock price?

          • mkultrawide [any]
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            2 years ago

            No, it's how capitalists value owning one share of equity in SVB. What's the current price?

            The real question should be “how many people in svb got a fat payout?”

            Which can be answer by answering my above question.

              • mkultrawide [any]
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                2 years ago

                Are you talking about the accounting scandal that sent executives to jail and turned the Big 5 in the Big 4?