• vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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    4 months ago

    it is only open source if i can build it myself. Which I can't if you just give me the weights.

    The weights are the "compiled" version of the dataset. It's the dataset that's the source, not the weights

    • delirious_owl@discuss.online
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      4 months ago

      So the cover art I made for a friend's album isn't open source, even though I released it as CC BY-SA... because you can't make it yourself?

      • leopold@lemmy.kde.social
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        4 months ago

        I would consider the "source code" for artwork to be the project file, with all of the layers intact and whatnot. The Photoshop PSD, the GIMP XCF or the Krita KRA. The "compiled" version would be the exported PNG/JPG.

        You can license a compiled binary under CC BY if you want. That would allow users to freely decompile/disassemble it or to bundle the binary for their purposes, but it's different from releasing source code. It's closed source, but under a free license.

    • ylai@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      4 months ago

      The situation is somewhat different and nuanced. With weights there are tools for fine-tuning, LoRA/LoHa, PEFT, etc., which presents a different situation as with binaries for programs. You can see that despite e.g. LLaMA being “compiled”, others can significantly use it to make models that surpass the previous iteration (see e.g. recently WizardLM 2 in relation to LLaMA 2). Weights are also to a much larger degree architecturally independent than binaries (you can usually cross train/inference on GPU, Google TPU, Cerebras WSE, etc. with the same weights).

  • toastal@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    My issue will be when OSI deems something as nonfree simply for adding that NC for non-commercial labels so the corporations can’t abuse the Commons.

    • twei@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 months ago

      i feel like it's okay that they do this, but i don't like the term "source available". maybe something like "Free for Non-Commercial Use" or "FOSS-NC"?

      • toastal@lemmy.ml
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        4 months ago

        The free software banshees will call it all proprietary… It’s not that it doesn’t make sense to draw different lines, but when folks treat OSI with a lot of reverence & if they say it doesn’t match their definition, folks want want to use it or release under these titles. “Source available” is also roped in with the we-get-a-monopoly licenses & gets knocked down a peg as if “open source” is the pinnacle of freedom despite the Commons being ransacked by corporations not giving back monetary support or contributions for the labor.