Christians could face one year prison sentence for encouraging conversion to their faith, according to a new controversial legislation being introduced in Israel. The legislation which is being proposed by ultra-Orthodox members of Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition would also proscribe Christians from engaging in religious discussion with Jews.

Titled Proposed Penal Law: Amendment – Prohibition of Solicitation for Religious Conversion – 2023, the legislation is introduced by United Torah Judaism's Moshe Gafni and Yaakov Asher. The law would apply to anyone who would attempt to persuade someone to change their religious beliefs, however the legislation specifically mentions the Christian faith, saying that "recently, the attempts of missionary groups, mainly Christians, to solicit conversion of religion have increased."

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    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      It's not a predictable outcome because of the holocaust at all. People have done ethno states without a prior genocide plenty of times, it just made it easier. The idea of zionism predates ww2 and its support by Christian nations as a means of getting rid of their Jewish population is also older than ww2 and was Hitler's pre extermination plan. Someone else can handle the specifics better than I can currently. My cat is demanding pets

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        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          It's an ethnostate placed smack dab in a pre existing country, Palestine and has been progressively doing violent expansions into what is left of Palestine. That's why it isn't legitimate and shouldn't exist. Their treatment of Palestine being abhorrent is tied into its very foundation. There couldn't have been an Israel without annexing Palestine.

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            • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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              No fucking way co existence is available at this point. In the past, maybe, I'd they had chosen to come as Jewish immigrants to Palestine and the money that went into displacing these people went into integration and state development. There maybe would still be issues along religious lines but Palestine contains super important sites for every Abrahamic religion, so it would be a regional conflict instead of a global cluster fuck. The other aspect of all this is that it serves as a staunch US client state to serve as a Nation Foreward Operating Base in the middle east.

              Also removing Zionists from Israel wouldn't be any more a genocide than removing any imperial nation from their colonies. Those same colonial powers set up the nation of Israel to seve their purposes as well, so it's doubly imperialist. De colonization isn't genocide.

              There may be some connection but that would be a person by person case. I'm not going to base my foreign policy opinions on individual feelings but the actions of a nation and those actions are detestable. If anything the fact that a holocaust was done to make up for a holocaust is even more disgusting.

        • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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          The assumption of "genocide" against Jewish Israelis as the only result of granting Palestinians basic human rights and representation demonstrates a deeply pessimistic view and a lot of projection. Rather than frame it as "abolition of the State of Israel," define the goal as self-determination for all inhabitants of Palestine.

          We can't predict the outcome 100%. There will probably be significant intra-Palestinian power struggles, but this happens with Israeli politics too.

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    • Icarium [comrade/them]
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      It’s not because of the holocaust it’s because Israel was created specifically for the purpose of a western puppet in the region.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      1920's-ish antisemetism goes something like "Jews have failed to integrate with every society they've been a part of, because they don't have a homeland" and that sentiment morphed into both the nazis and Israel.