seriously my friends tell me to watch a bunch of shows and so fuckin many of them are obnoxiously pervy right out the gate :stalin-stressed:
seriously my friends tell me to watch a bunch of shows and so fuckin many of them are obnoxiously pervy right out the gate :stalin-stressed:
I watch a fair amount of anime and I still give most of my recommendations with the disclaimer "but there's some sexualization of underage characters you'll have to ignore"
It's not an overblown issue
Watch better shows? It’s not hard to avoid if you simply don’t watch mainstream shonen trash.
It is hard to avoid even if you don't watch mainstream shonen trash. No need to get so weirdly hostile in defense of your treats. Separate your media interests from your sense of identity. A criticism of media you like is not an attack on you.
Idk what you’re on about tbh. It’s genuinely been a decade at least since I’ve seen a show with loli shit. I’m not being hostile, you are just projecting your own poor taste into everyone who watches anime. It says a lot about you that you think loli shit is common.
Even if you were right (you're not) the fact that practically all mainstream anime sexualizes children is still a problem worth talking about
And the problem is that most sexualization of minors in anime these days isn't even considered "loli shit." Most of these shows are about high schoolers which are broadly sexualized in all media, not just anime.
I would push back, and say you’re wrong, on most anime sexualizes children. Again, if you think that’s true it says more about what you personally watch than anything else.
But you're the one who said that. You said it was "mainstream shonen trash" which sexualizes children. The fact that mainstream anime has this problem is in fact bad.
Might I suggest that the two of you are having a disconnect on what counts as "Sexualization of minors" and what doesnt? Because I find that these discussions can get poisoned by that.
It may be that they don't recognize sexualization of high school aged children as sexualization of minors, yes, I considered that. They would be wrong, though.
What do you mean? That’s an interesting take.
After trying to explain it a few times, Ive decided that I dont really want to get into it, sorry. It gets into stuff about perception of characters ages that gets some people really fucking upset (understandably, but still) and I dont want to make things worse.
That’s fair
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This comment is the embodiment of their OP. Nothing else needs to be said.
Someone else posted a parody here which sounds appropriate "sexualization is when there are high school characters and the more high school characters there are the more sexualized it is".
Also its even funnier considering the meme at the top. You can name 20-30-40 anime over the past decade and someone will still come and post "practicaly all anime" as if its even remotely true based on numbers alone.
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I think you could listen more to other people's perspectives and judging from anime toplists it is a serious problem.
That you found anime you don't find anything (serious) wrong with is good for you, but in the thread LotGH was recommended and that has a number of serious problems as well.
If it is so easy I would like to give you the burden of proof though and give us up to a dozen of anime in which what you write is rare doesn't happen. If you can try to keep them somewhat popular.
“Give us a dozen” lmao
"up to"
:cringe:
I would simply not give such a recommendation
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The weeb brigade is here to imply I'm a bad person for recognizing the rampant sexualization of minors in anime, great.
As soon as I saw the ratio of this post I knew the weebs were here to defend their waifus
In saying that I have watched plenty of good anime lol
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
Awesome to see chapo.chat going from "don't be defensive" to "oh god oh help me they are attacking me".
It all started with someone simply saying "its easy to avoid just pick better stuff". That is a siberian winter take at best.
You probably need to read more on this website. Many people posting in this thread already had a number of posts over the bad issues in anime elsewhere in the past. Stop making a strawman when literally nobody here denies anime has bad stuff in it. You are not in fact in r/anime.
However you want a hill to die on, apparently everything is bad including the mainstream stuff(I'd say the mainstream stuff is actualy the most innofensive but anyway), sorry but its on you. You are allowed to have your opinion. Just don't expect others to agree.
There is no discourse here, only someone looking for a hill to die on. Pick better stuff. I can make a MAL list if you want.
I'm not chapo.chat, I'm just a person.
And they literally did attack me. That's what "stop telling on yourself" means. They are implying negative things about me in the very comment I replied to. I wasn't being vague, I was directly responding to the contents of the comment.
A strawman is when you directly reply to the things other people are saying?
Again, I'm not even the one who said that. I was responding to someone who said that all the sexualization of minors takes place in "mainstream shonen trash." Not my words.
Pretty sure it all started with this
Your strawman is
You should know better, don't make these types of generalizations when people here are the exact opposite. You were rambling about the "weeb brigade" so not even one specific poster.
No thats literally what the person in the comment I replied to was saying. They were implying that me seeing a lot of sexualization of minors in anime is evidence that I'm seeking it out and am a bad person. Again, that's what they meant by "stop telling on yourself."
It was two specific posters (and the :libertarian-approaching: s upvoting them)