I would've thought USSR would've done it by the 70s if not before Amerika, but it's been 60 years since and no one has done it so far. In fact, it's likely it'll be Amerikans who're back on the moon again before anyone else. WTF is going on here?

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Landing people on the moon was a flex, and arguably a tremendous amount of wasted resources considering what we got out of it. It simply costs way too much to send people up there, and keep them alive, and bring them back if all you're doing is taking soil samples and moon rock spiders back to earth. This can just as easily be done by non-crewed missions (which there have been a couple in the last 20 years)

    • popsickle [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      As I mentioned in another comment, I think underestimating the power of the flex is dangerous. The flex allowed Amerika to proclaim itself and capitalism as totally poggers and awesometacular for decades. In marxist terms, it might be non-productive labor, but it facilitated a lot of productive labor otherwise (in increasing people interested in space and science and nasa at the very fucking least).

      • chickentendrils [any, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Affording space exploration is pretty dependent on the spoils of empire, and justifying it to a population whose standard of living was declining by that point would have been pretty hard for the Soviets. I'm not particularly read up on what the Soviet intentions were after the US' moon landing in '69, but I know Brezhnev was previously in charge of their space program and probably had a pretty good grasp of how much commitment would be required and whether those resources were better used dealing with the immediate threats.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        In marxist terms, it might be non-productive labor

        I'd describe it as closer to pure research. No immediate applications, but plenty of useful technologies got their start in the space race.

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    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      This can just as easily be done by non-crewed missions (which there have been a couple in the last 20 years)

      mostly from the CNSA (we totally need their logo for an emoji)

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, as far as other projects there are many countries who have been doing tech demos or orbital projects like India, Japan, UAE, S Korea, Italy, etc. Cool stuff is still happening, but planting another flag on the moon isn't really that high on anyone's list of priorities.