I mostly like the "embrace doing absolutely everything that would piss off a republican" angle tbh

Yeah, it's a boring old conversation for me at this point to explain to an "apolitical" person that Marx was talking about the mandatory nuclear family and then give them a litany of examples of how people are so often forced to stay in toxic households by material pressures. By then, I can reframe the topic (often paired with the same fear for religion) as being about the removal of factors that force people to live or worship in ways that they don't want to

Whether or not they learn anything from it, they usually act like they have something new to think about

Somewhat off topic but I think "(X) abolition" is almost always a rhetorical mistake, even when the actual ideas are good. Like prison abolition for instance, I fully support it and people often understand and agree when I actually explain the concept but if you just say the words "prison abolition" people will jump to it meaning just letting all criminals go free with no other mechanisms in place to dissuade serious criminal behavior, and often leaves them predisposed against it even after you've explained it, as opposed to if you'd started with the actual nuanced policy proposal. Same thing happens with family abolition, school abolition, etc... it's just a needlessly inflammatory way to sell it, particularly to normies

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