Putting on my pants in the morning, when a Gamer suddenly breaks into my room and starts screaming at me for censoring my gapping exposed asshole.
In case people don't know, Filia, the character whose panties have been covered, is 16.
So of course gamers are mad about this.
that have an encyclopedic knowledge of age of consent in varying jurisdictions be that way. 
a story mode illustration showing Black character Big Band being beaten by police was removed
This is the only one I can see as objectionable, since it's censoring an instance of police brutality that's pretty integral to the character's story from what I can gather.
You don't have to watch now. Which for a teen rated game is probably more appropriate
Yeah I think you can argue either way. I'll say from what I've seen it's not especially graphic. Teens see much, much worse, especially in school.
I need to take a peek up a sexualized cartoon girl's skirt!>no Ashley saying, "Ugh, you pervert!"
>no Ashley saying, "Hey! What are you looking at?"
>no animation of Ashley covering her skirt when you try to look up it and see her panties
>no being able to freely stare at Ashley's panties from the bottom of a high enough ladder
>no getting an accidental Ashley upskirt dialogue when performing a suplex on an enemy
>no quick half a second slip of Ashley's panties during the cutscene where she and Leon leap through the church window to escape from the crossbow Illuminados
>no easy distance panty shot of Ashley when she's cowering in fear in the presence of enemies, allowing for a clean angle of her white panties
>no aiming a knife or grenade towards the sky in certain areas to lower the camera at a low angle to catch a glimpse of Ashley's panties
>no quick glimpse of Ashley's panties during the cutscene when she is pushed by the Island Ganado when she's in captivity on the island
>no shot of Ashley's panties as she crawls underneath the table during the section in the castle where she's playableFor all the things this game is doing right, it censored, possibly even downright removed, the thing people wanted most. It murders an aspect of her character, rendering it essentially non-canon. Why is censorship so prevalent in gaming nowadays? I'm surprised they're even keeping in the gore given the extent that they're willing to go to censor something that the vast majority of players will never even see. This is dishonest, and suggests a lack of soul and attention to detail on the developer's part. No panties, no buy. Simple as.
What's with otakus and incessant fan service when literally porn exists? And if you don't want to go that hard, there's a huge market in Japan for softcore pictures of models in revealing clothing? I seriously don't get it.
It isn't about the porn, it's about being able to sexualize anything they want and getting angered when told no. If this sounds gross or creepy it should be because these are also common traits in sexual abusers and predators.
CW: discussion of hypothetical SA
The best explanation I can come up with is that they want to engage in virtual non-consenting behavior with some level of plausible deniability; most people aren't going to play a straight-up depraved SA-simulator, although such games exist.
Something actually just occurred to me: with porn or that softcore stuff you mentioned, even if non-consensual acts are portrayed, unless they're watching some horrific dark web shit (again, the vast majority will not go that far), the viewer knows that the people involved are consenting and just acting. But in a scenario like looking up Ashley's skirt in the original RE4, there are no "actors" in a certain sense. Of course, someone has to provide the voice lines, maybe mo-cap, etc., but in that moment the player personally and willfully violates the consent of the NPC, who in this case is completely powerless. And this act occurs in a context where such acts are not the focus (unlike an SA-simulator), which makes it truer to life. The only thing more visceral would be a "virtual assault" in a game like VRChat, but in that scenario there is a real human on the other side meaning that there is actual harm and potential consequences, unlike with an NPC programmed to cater to a male power fantasy. I think that even in the simple case of objectifying a character on screen without any particular action (beyond ogling them with the in-game camera), there's an element of non-consensual voyeurism that isn't present with porn.
Like I said, it's an idea that just popped into my head as I was considering your question, so it's underdeveloped. There's been a decent amount of research on objectification and violence (sexual or otherwise) in videogames, but I always viewed that as exploring the simple dichotomy of the player being an agent rather than a mere observer (as in pornography) without considering the player's subjective experience of the consent of characters (player or non-player). I'd have to dive into the literature to know how much that particular dimension has been explored.
...of course, none of that addresses outrages over other types of media being similarly "censored." So idk, maybe I'm just going off on a fruitless tangent.
This is very confusing to me. Japanise anime and ligtnovels seem increadibly horny. To the pount its offputing. But nobody seems to get laid.
The chinise equivalents are generally not as horny but people do get laid.
I think the original business model was to endlessly "tease" young readers who don't understand that there can never be a "payoff". I don't know how it became what it is now.
The answer to this seems to be that pornography is actually illegal in Japan, with the porn that does exist either being censored or being made in ways that have loopholes around the laws.
Anime and light novels get advertised on TV and radio, and in Japan you need a license from the government to get shown on broadcast media. So I could see production companies trying desperately to avoid a pornography designation while still getting close to the edge.
while still getting close to the edge
Ishuzoku Reviewers literally had multiple explicit sex scenes in every episode - but it was fine because they didn't show penetration.
That show is way too good for what it is. It's actually funny too, which anime is often bad at (outside of Gintama)
it censored, possibly even downright removed, the thing people wanted most
censor something that the vast majority of players will never even see
which is it?
Ashley in the remake will break the fourth wall and look disapprovingly at the player if you try to look up her skirt: https://www.eurogamer.net/ashley-breaks-the-fourth-wall-in-resident-evil-4-remake-if-you-try-to-upskirt-her
So like every single other change to RE4make, they didn't actually remove it they just made it more subtle.
Who would have thought the people complaining would lie like that
I gotta ask the stupid question:
Does removing a panty shot really appreciably reduce the character sexualization in skullgirls?
To paraphrase who framed roger rabbit: she’s just drawn that way.
“Hey we fixed the sexualized minor character!”
“Oh sick, what’d you do?”
proudly “we lengthened her skirt a few inches so you can’t see the underwear.”
“What about the torpedo tits, wasp waist and liefeld spine?”
“What about em.”
It really does seem like a decision motivated by being grossed out with panty shot guys, which is fine. but they didn’t remove sexualization, they just decided to take away that one kind of fetishization.
It’s funny because I’m playing through yakuza zero (slowly. There’s just no time for video games anymore) and that shits hornier than skullgirls in a million ways but I can’t even be bothered by it because the whole thing is a loneliness and social isolation simulator rather than a fantastical fighting game.
Like when you’re running around Tokyo collecting cards with women’s faces and phone numbers on em to use in a telephone club while shoving people out of your way any arousal you might feel is completely drowned out by the deep despair the game is showing you.
When you’re picking which sexy cartoon to beat up your opponents sexy cartoon no level of mechanical depth and artistic excellence will ever change that focus. The sex doesn’t make a greater point, it’s the object of the game in the same way that the little sprites are the object of fetishization.
Specifically they lowered the amount of sexual violence and "involuntary" sexualization, which upskirts typically are.
Other than armbands, the actual models (in the traditional animation sense) are 0% changed, and the devs had no pretense of "reducing sexualization", even of Filia (the girl in the OP), who is canonically 16.
I been puzzling on this one. Can you explain what involuntary sexualization is? I keep bumping into the “all sexualization is involuntary” wall.
Totally fair question!
I put it in quotes because it's not a totally accurate way to put it. I basically mean the difference between a character dressing like a stripper with giant honkers for no reason vs a normal-looming character who has the camera constantly looking at them at exploitative angles. Basically elements of sexualization that are diegetically within the character's agency vs things that diegetically are not (or are fully non-diegetic).
The current devs are giving carte-blanche to the first one while trying to reduce the most blatant cases of the second one.
Ty.
I think in the absence of a public statement confirming it, if you have to make a distinction between diegetic and non diegetic forms of sexualization to explain one part of the change it might just be that a bunch of users that love those parts of the game gross the publisher out.
Idk anything though so 🤷♀️
Well, my initial wording was closer to that of the devs, talking about how the game features women who are "confident in their sexuality" or whatever but that some elements were "in poor taste", so theory liberal ideology/excuse-mongering is that the character models are characters expressing themselves and what they changed were a handful of instances where the sexualization, if anything, was going against the will of the character. I might just be talking in circles though.
Skullgirls launch party never ending.
Yes it's
, but the game remains the best hyperfighter to be released. Hand drawn sprites are nice, and the art style is amazing.Remember the booty camera in Mass effect 2. It was like sooo non-subtle, even the voice actresses came out against the oversexualized portrayal of her character.
And, of course, it also made people mad when they changed it in the Legendary Edition
I've been playing it since the other thread. They've only been removed on Filia as far as I can tell. Still present on the adult characters. I could not be noticing some change though as things like this one I just didn't notice got changed at all as it's been years since I last played it.
The sprite pantyshots are unchanged, so Filia, Parasoul, etc. still have them every other frame, it's just removed in a few cutscenes.
Tbf, Orwell did depict sex with a much younger woman as a brave act of rebellion.
I read 1984 in highschool and I don't remember the age gap being commented on? I dont even remember the two characters ages. And even though that was a long time ago and I was very bored by 1984, I feel like my horny ass would remember that.
They most certainly talk about it, and Winston explicitly brings it up in conversation with Julia just before they have sex, iirc.
Huh. I believe you I just find it strange that I dont remember that.
Text is available online. Julia was 26, so just ctrl f that as a start.
Anyone that's upset they can't see nazi-like armbands and drawings of 16 year olds' underwear should
I now find myself hoping that the studio will release another update that puts all the characters in parkas just to spite these people
Redditors are very mad about the CENSORSHIP of this game they definitely bought and still play 10 years later.
Nothing offends these thick skinned
except everything that offends them.Angry gamers here ===> https://www.reddit.com/r/Skullgirls/comments/14l84xb/censorship_is_always_wrong/
On the bright side, elsewhere there's a post and Maria's development seems to be going well. I wish she had a petticoat, granted, but she's got lots of great animations.
Same deal with the Bridget thing - 99% of these nerds never play/played the game anyway, it’s all performative. Skull girls is still incredibly horny, they just removed some of the horniness directed at an underaged character. Odd how they get most upset at that and the removal of nazi armbands though huh, really makes you think
were a mistake.
