I was boredly looking around YouTube on this Sunday morning and in the mood to watch some bozo talk about anime, maybe get some insights, discover some obscure hidden gem and the like.

However, I found it surprisingly hard to find quality in that scene, beyond niche video-makers like Kenny Lauerdale. Thus I was wondering if you have any recommendations of some people you like making videos about anime.

  • Awoo [she/her]M
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    4 months ago

    Good anime youtubers are pretty hard to find, you often end up seeing them make like 1-5 videos where 1 was extremely controversial to anime fans (reactionaries) and then they stopped making videos forever. An obvious example of this is the Goblin Slayer ideology video https://youtu.be/VPX2fWgoiyg This person was a great video maker and just disappeared and unlisted this video because of what it stirred up, a real shame.

    • StalinStan [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      Yeah, goblin slayer is too tough a subject for anime fans. They as a rule don't have the artistic literary to not have the worst takes about it. I know my takes are awful about it.

      • Awoo [she/her]M
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        4 months ago

        The problem is when a show is good in a number of ways people switch their brains off to criticism unless the criticism is so blatantly obvious that it can't be ignored. You can see this with Attack on Titan which they generally accept deserves criticism for its blatantly fascist message. Since the issues with Goblin Slayer are hidden within the art and framework rather than the explicit point of the story this gets lost on them.

        • StalinStan [none/use name]
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          4 months ago

          I just like the show about a guy who fights to protect the poor people the government ignores because it is the right thing to do. Then everyone sees how cool he is for doing that and become his friends.

          • Awoo [she/her]M
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            4 months ago

            Yeah and that's ok. It's the framework and everything around it that is sus. Ranging from the idyllic towns and villages that basically all look like Hitler paintings, to the obvious depiction of women in the show (other than the elf) as tradwives, not to mention the obvious "we must perform genocide" aspect of the goblin menace. Yes the goblin menace might actually be evil but that doesn't mean it's not a standin for a certain message, which becomes clearer when you take into account the artistic elements. All the features of fashy shit are there and ooooooo boy does its community and "fanart" audience love SA.

            • StalinStan [none/use name]
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              4 months ago

              I feel like being fash and enjoying sexual violence is the background radiation of anime in general though.

              • Awoo [she/her]M
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                4 months ago

                Certainly for a certain strain of anime.

                • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                  4 months ago

                  For real. The only shows I've seen that meet those criteria are things I intentionally hate watched like Cross Ange lol

                  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                    4 months ago

                    I feel like most mainstream stuff. Think about the trope of the fall into chest stuff. That is like ever classic anime you know?

                    • Cromalin [she/her]
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                      4 months ago

                      here's some great anime that neither enjoy sexual violence nor fascism. there's plenty more out there, sex pest stuff is hardly "every classic anime". some of these may have some in it but they certainly aren't enjoying it

                      • revolutionary girl utena
                      • serial experiments lain
                      • turn a gundam
                      • millennium actress
                      • showa genroku rakugo shinju
                      • inu-oh
                      • madoka magica
                      • keep your hands off eizouken
                      • liz and the blue bird

                      also it's real fucking gross to say "a poor taste joke is exactly the same as on screen sexual assault with deeply fash vibes" there's a big difference between urusei yatsura and goblin slayer

                      • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                        4 months ago

                        Goku does some unfortune things but because it is always played for comedy people don't think about it.

                        • Cromalin [she/her]
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                          4 months ago

                          you'll notice i didn't include dragon ball on the list of anime that didn't have sex pest stuff or fascism! and again, there's a big difference between dragon ball and goblin slayer

                          you're basically saying "all 80s movies love sexual assault, so it's fine that i like revenge of the nerds," and when i respond with a list of 80s movies that don't have any sexual assault or harrassment in them you say "well have you seen how han treats leia in star wars?" those are two very different things! both are bad, but they are at very different levels of it

                          • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                            4 months ago

                            I said it was a terrible take but I really feel like goblin slayer depicts sexual violence as bad and that is why people don't like it. I'll accept that the first episode didn't work very well. However there are multiple sorry arcs about characters processing trauma and that being important and the system not giving people the resources to help with that. However yes, it does portray sexual violence more seriously than star wars.

                            • Cromalin [she/her]
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                              4 months ago

                              wait you think people dislike goblin slayer BECAUSE it shows sexual violence as bad? you think the people who dislike goblin slayer are sitting around going "oh if only there were more wacky sexual harassment i might like this show"?

                              the problem with goblin slayer is that it shows the sexual violence in a way where it clearly expects the audience to be jacking off and there is no amount of arcs where characters process trauma that will undo that. your standard anime shittiness simply does not compare

                              • StalinStan [none/use name]
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                                4 months ago

                                Ehh, the first scene of the first episode is questionable. It is 50/50 among reviews if it is done well. Clearly not perfect or the discourse wouldn't exist. SAO was contemporary had more violence of that nature. It was clearly ment to be fun in that show and people do not give it the same level of hate. There is a charitable reading of the work that sees the author ment to say sexual violence was bad. Which is far enough from mainstream anime opinion that I think people have trouble processing it.