https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/climate/nuclear-fusion-reactor.amp.html

    • DrStrangeBalls [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah that's what thermonuclear weaponry is. Originally fusion of hydrogen isotopes, in the arsenal since the 50s.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Fusion isn't that hard to do. A dedicated hobbyist with some disposable income can build a fusor in their bedroom.

    What's hard about fusion power is that, while the reaction itself generates more energy than it takes to start, it only happens under crazy high-energy conditions. The hobbyist version doesn't generate net power because it just uses a ton of energy to make those conditions for a tiny bit of fusion.

    Thermonuclear bombs (ps we have had fusion nukes for decades) create the conditions for fusion inside of the blast of a nuclear fission bomb*. They generate net energy very briefly, and then that energy goes everywhere, which is the point, because it's a bomb.

    Nuclear power needs to sustain the conditions for fusion for a long time. Fusion itself generates net energy, so it should be able to use that energy to keep the conditions going. The most serious approaches involve keeping a lot of hot hydrogen plasma in one place for an extended period of time, it's just a matter of how to contain it. The sun does it with gravity. It's too hot to keep in a big metal box. Magnets work on it, but you need very big magnets, and the way plasma interacts with magnets is hideously complicated. The current best design for magnetic confinement is a tokamak - magnets holding plasma in the shape of a spinning donut.

    ITER is an attempt to build an absolutely gigantic tokamak, which should be able to generate net power. It'll take decades because ITER is extremely complicated and absolutely gigantic. It's almost certain to work so long as it keeps getting funding. It also won't solve anything under capitalism - we already don't build fission reactors because they take five years to build and that's not a fast enough profit.

    ITER has taken so long to design that, in the meantime, better magnets have been invented. Sparc is an attempt to build a much smaller reactor by taking advantage of stronger magnets. Sparc might work, and that'd be very convenient.

    *By the way, fission gets power by splitting very heavy elements, fusion gets power by fusing very light elements. The resting point where neither can generate power is iron.

  • Fourny [he/him,comrade/them]
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    The papers show “this high-field path still looks viable,” Dr. Greenwald said. “If we can overcome the engineering challenges, this machine will perform as we predict.”

    So, they are exactly where we have been for the last 50 years in fusion research. "Hmm, this looks like it could work if only we could solve these pesky engineering problems!"

    Those "engineering problems" are the entire point. We have been able to make uncontrolled fusion blasts for decades. Keeping it bottled up so we can produce power has always been the sticking point. These guys are using some newer magnet tech, and hey, maybe that is the magic bullet to finally get this thing working well enough to cobble together a working proof-of-concept, but AFAICT this is pure vapourware.

    That said, I really hope that fusion can be made to work. Plentiful cheap energy fuelled by water that can be built anywhere could save the world.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Haven't we been about a decade away from workable fusion since the 70's?

    I mean if it works, great but don't hold your breath.

    • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      yeah for sure its a nice deus ex, who tf is writing this garbage

    • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      can we anti matter the vatican? illuminati did nothing wrong (in angels and demons)

  • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    dumb question but can we harness that energy for like a controlled demolition for terraforming or something

    Sun lazer go brrrrr

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, there was research of using nukes for mining.

      • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        4 years ago

        List of things we have tried using nuclear bombs to do:

        Digging lakes, harbors, canals, open-pit mines

        Digging underground mines

        Digging underground storage silos

        Cracking up the earth to allow oil and natural gas to flow to wells

        Extinguishing natural gas fires

        Sealing underwater oil well blowouts.

        Excavating and crushing ore.

      • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        sounds so cool tbh if it could harnessed a bit and sustainably

      • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        but it will be functional like used for hydroponic terrace farming or something idk

  • mayor_pete_buttigieg [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    "Fusion nukes" were invented in the 1950s. No one is actually close to useful fusion energy though. Honestly, though, you shouldn't expect to see large states investing in more powerful weapons, the existing ones are plenty. Instead, they will work on more efficient ways to kill specific targets with as little human intervention as possible.