• acealeam [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i talked to this uyghur activist from a free radio asia and they seemed nice

  • artangels [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    whats the full story on the hong kong protesters? i know theyre alt right adjacent cuz proud boys were with them? i guess i just never really paid close attention.

      • Owl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This and the shared element is anti-authority (opposition to new powers for China, opposition to police). Also I get the impression the liberal wing is the biggest.

    • bug [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      petite bougie people mad at an extradition bill that china proposed because they wanted to extradite a rapist that fled to HK, essentially

      • kilternkafuffle [any]
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        4 years ago

        because they wanted to extradite a rapist that fled to HK, essentially

        I'm sure the PRC gov cherry-picked that case to justify a step in the direction of less autonomy for HK - the law would apply to all.

        I think the central conflict here is obvious, but a fair solution is not. It's central authority vs. local autonomy, the one-party state vs. a bourgeois democracy in a privileged city. HK is neither an oppressed colony nor a social democracy that treats its people fairly, it's outward-looking and aligned with US and UK finance - not exactly a sympathetic ideal. If I were a HongKonger, I'd want less central control, if I were a Chinese worker in Guangdong, I'd want unity and equality with Hong Kong, i.e. more central control. Neither Beijing nor Hong Kong governments deserve full endorsements.

        On balance, I side with Hong Kong protesters, as the underdog, as victims of police brutality, as those whose rights are being reduced under the status quo. But the Western reaction shouldn't be general Sinophobia/demonization. Western countries treat their people about the same way - see Catalonia, BLM, Gilets Jaunes.

  • Lotus [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    “A few days ago the cheery little hunchback Wedde turned up – only to disappear again to Germany shortly after. He had a pressing commission from Geib to enlist you and me for the Zukunft. I made no secret to him whatever of our intentions of abstaining, to his great sorrow, and of our reasons for this, and explained to him at the same time that when our time allows or circumstances demand that we should again come forward as propagandists, we, as internationalists, are in no wise bound or pledged to attach ourselves to Germany, the beloved Fatherland.”

    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1877/letters/77_08_01.htm