Magic the gathering, Warhammer, Video Games, even fantasy and scifi fiction, they all have had big I fights with right wingers in the last decade. The only exception I can think of maybe (MAYBE) would be DnD. Thoughts?

  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Capitalism kills community and culture and replaces it with itself. A small town might of had a tool shop, a music store, a dildo store whatever--- now they have WalMart.

    People need community and culture, people want to feel like they belong to something worthwhile.

    However, White Americans don't belong anywhere except in a capitalist paradigm. Since they only exist in that paradigm, they have no culture of their own. Because Capitalism's nature is that everyone has to participate in capitalism, nothing is truly theirs.

    So they bring their lonely weird asses to things that cater to lonely people and try to claim it as "theirs" since they have nothing else to point to as "theirs."

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I think so, but at the same time it puts you in an interesting spot where you have say in what that culture can be--- since you have no tradition or community already. It's kind of already happening as American ideologies pit against each other.

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I grew up around mexicans and black people, it took me a long time to put a finger on it exactly, mostly because I grew up right wing, but that's what I think it is. You can watch Latino's do the same thing white people do as they "Americanize." It's not unique to white people, it's just what capitalism does.

    • pooh [she/her, any]
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      4 years ago

      So they bring their lonely weird asses to things that cater to lonely people and try to claim it as “theirs” since they have nothing else to point to as “theirs.”

      This is also true with many on the left, though I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        I guess I don't understand. Who on the left is getting pissy about WARHAMMER 40000 being inclusive?

        • pooh [she/her, any]
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          4 years ago

          Not that specifically, but I think the same sense of alienation that attracts some to the right, also attracts people to the left. The key difference is that the left offers real solutions instead of the return to some imaginary past, though there is still a risk of people treating leftist ideas and imagery as an identity/lifestyle, or in some cases, a sort of revenge fantasy.

          • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Yes, I think we can also agree that alienation affects everyone on the political spectrum. Even apolitical people.

            a risk of people treating leftist ideas and imagery as an identity/lifestyle, or in some cases, a sort of revenge fantasy.

            Can you expand on that more? Are you talking about Tankies? Revenge fantasy?

            • pooh [she/her, any]
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              4 years ago

              I don't think it's exclusive to any tendency, though generally I think it's more prevalent online than in the real world. I see it as taking the form of LARPing or lifestylist behavior, and a focus on aesthetics, performance, and a certain view of class identity.

              Also, when I'm talking about those who hold onto a revenge fantasy, I'm talking about people who are primarily motivated by a sense anger towards certain groups or individuals and a desire to harm them. In most cases, there's very good reason to be angry, and I've sometimes let it dominate my own thoughts, but focusing solely on anger probably isn't productive when it comes to the long term goal of replacing capitalism.

              I hope none of this sounds preachy or overly critical towards anyone, by the way. I think I've been guilty of these things myself in the past, but it's just something I've been thinking about a lot more lately.