Why are you say anything about justification now? I was rebuking your argument that Russians committed mass murder in Ukraine, which they didn't and you agreed saying the numbers were expected, but you suddenly moved into some kind of moral argument for some reason.
Now i don't agree with the expectations, because you still didn't said who expected it and from reading of nearly all liberal articles about those numbers they not only expect much more but are even making them up contrary to the apparently most trustworthy assessments.
Nakba is comparable in terms of numbers of victims and lenght of war but the military forces were much lower than the ones in Ukraine and intensity of the war was also much lower - just compare the ratio of military to civilian losses.
Tl;Dr - My original argument that Russia is conducting mass murder (genocide) is false, the facts refute it. War crimes are in question. Your arguments are emotional and that triggered my antagonistic responses.
Thank you and the rest of the participants in this thread, you've made me see this war in a new light.
Why are you say anything about justification now? I was rebuking your argument that Russians committed mass murder in Ukraine, which they didn't and you agreed saying the numbers were expected, but you suddenly moved into some kind of moral argument for some reason.
Now i don't agree with the expectations, because you still didn't said who expected it and from reading of nearly all liberal articles about those numbers they not only expect much more but are even making them up contrary to the apparently most trustworthy assessments.
Nakba is comparable in terms of numbers of victims and lenght of war but the military forces were much lower than the ones in Ukraine and intensity of the war was also much lower - just compare the ratio of military to civilian losses.
Tl;Dr - My original argument that Russia is conducting mass murder (genocide) is false, the facts refute it. War crimes are in question. Your arguments are emotional and that triggered my antagonistic responses.
Thank you and the rest of the participants in this thread, you've made me see this war in a new light.
Fair enough, i guess my argument was emotional because i'm drowning in the absolutely inane prowar propaganda in polish and enlish media every day.
Whatever... You're too busy being right to listen. Dasvidania chelovek, enjoy life.