Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an "uncorrupt government" is remotely possible.
Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.
There, now I've pissed off everyone lol
Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really 🤷
Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.
All states are authoritarian. Where do you think all the authority comes from?
A state having authority isn't always a bad thing though, the current state is really great if you're a white male property owner!
And those guys won't be too happy if you take that state away from them, so whatever comes next would need the authority to resist that counter-revolution.
But that's authoritarian, so we should just let them take back over and keep doing the authoritarianism that supports their interests.
Luckily an entirely uncorrupt government is not necessary, since that is indeed quite unlikely to ever happen. It is enough to have low corruption, which is much more achievable.
i think i agree, it's not that hard because you only need 3 ingredients for a prosperous capitalist society: 1) reasonably clean and effective government; 2) good regulation, which takes care of workers and the environment in the country; 3) a heavily exploited third world where 1st world mining companies go to get cheap resources and employ a semi-slave labor force that has to drink the resulting poisoned water, and if they ever have the gall to revolt you just sanction or nato-bomb their asses back to the stone age
it has been working for centuries, i dunno why these leftoids keep talking shit
Most would agree with your point - right up until you suggest that having an "uncorrupt government" is remotely possible.
Pretty much the same level of unrealistic idealism as folks who think it's remotely possible to transition a state to communism without it turning into authoritarianism.
There, now I've pissed off everyone lol
Edit: Except, I guess for the hardcore capitalists, but I assume those guys are all too dumb to read, so no point, really 🤷
i wonder why this happens
whatever the answer, its probably more nuanced than whatever you're currently thinking
All states are authoritarian. Where do you think all the authority comes from?
A state having authority isn't always a bad thing though, the current state is really great if you're a white male property owner!
And those guys won't be too happy if you take that state away from them, so whatever comes next would need the authority to resist that counter-revolution.
But that's authoritarian, so we should just let them take back over and keep doing the authoritarianism that supports their interests.
And why do they consistently seem to find that authority to be necessary?
Luckily an entirely uncorrupt government is not necessary, since that is indeed quite unlikely to ever happen. It is enough to have low corruption, which is much more achievable.
i think i agree, it's not that hard because you only need 3 ingredients for a prosperous capitalist society: 1) reasonably clean and effective government; 2) good regulation, which takes care of workers and the environment in the country; 3) a heavily exploited third world where 1st world mining companies go to get cheap resources and employ a semi-slave labor force that has to drink the resulting poisoned water, and if they ever have the gall to revolt you just sanction or nato-bomb their asses back to the stone age
it has been working for centuries, i dunno why these leftoids keep talking shit
When the Sandinistas came to power in Nicaragua, filled with hope and ideals for their nation of people, they discovered a really awful thing.
Here you go! This helped me understand why socialist countries turn to authority
What a bop
No, you're right. Anarchism is the way (: