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  • roux [he/him, they/them]M
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    2 months ago

    but I just want to gently remind you that for some people, gender is really really important.

    Absolutely. That's why I don't want to step on the toes of people who are in that camp. Their gender identity is as important to me as it is to them. Something that stuck out with that gender accelerationist manifesto is that just because we may strive for gender abolition, doesn't mean gender identity will go away, it just means it will not longer be a tool to be used by the ruling class(of course ideally the ruling class will be gone) in order to put us in arbitrary boxes. My genderness is gonna be completely different to the next person's genderness. I don't wanna seem like I'm coming as if I'm saying someone's else's genderness is pointless or anything. Apologies to anyone that might have read it that way.

    I'm enbie and to me, on a personal level, gender is genuinely unimportant to my own identity but when I talk about the abolition of gender I try to frame it in terms of something like abolishing enforced gender or abolishing gender norms because I don't want to unintentionally signal to anyone, least of all to certain trans comrades, that I'm coming to steal their gender from them. All I want is for gender to be optional and based on exactly how the individual feels at that particular moment; you can look how you want, you can act how you prefer, and you can be the gender(s) that you feel and none of these things have to "align" and anybody who tries to tell you that you aren't permitted to do something/that you have to do something/that you're doing it wrong can go straight to hell because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.

    Ok it does sound we are on the same page :)

    because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.

    che-smile

    I have Foucault on my list to read but it probably won't be for a year or 2 because of how backlogged I am but now I'm eager. And you dragon analogy is powerful. I guess at the end of the day, just because my genderness isn't that important to me(I'm probably 60% AGAB and 40% meh, for comparison) doesn't mean others' gender identity should be invalidated.

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, we're on the same page. In that case, excuse my yapping.

      I have Foucault on my list to read but it probably won't be for a year or 2 because of how backlogged I am but now I'm eager.

      I'm conflicted about Foucault tbh. But at the end of the day his thought is very influential and there are some useful tools to add to the toolkit which his work provides so even if you don't agree with everything or you take issue with certain things, it's still very useful to read Foucault.

      And you dragon analogy is powerful.

      I have to confess that's really just me regurgitating Niezsche from memory and adapting it to gender normativity. I'm sure he'd hate that, which makes it all the better.

      I think the Foucault thing got my galaxy brain pinging off of Niezsche so it kinda just came pouring out. Also don't read Niezsche unless you really, really have the burning desire to. There are two types of people who read Niezsche: young, mostly white, men who are edgelords that want a philosophical justification for why they are better than everyone else and dusty old philosophy academics who are sequestered away in some university office building. You aren't either of those two key demographics, thankfully.

      • roux [he/him, they/them]M
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        2 months ago

        I have some Nietzsche but it's so low on my list it might as well not be there. I have Thus Spake Zarathustra and maybe some other stuff by him. I'm conflicted on reading him for the same way I am about reading Heidegger since they both have a history with fascism. I do wanna read Being and Time and Heidegger's essay on technology and those are probably first before Nietzsche for sure. But that's all lumped in with my next bout of philosophy. I have this anarchist theory kick I'm on, then revisit Marxist works, then possibly gender and queer theory(not sure what is gonna be in that yet), and I have a neurdivergent block I wanna get to some time in the future so philosophy might be after that? Lol. I need to read more.

        I'm sure he'd hate that, which makes it all the better.

        Also, this is praxis lol.

        For Foucault, I have Disipline and Punish, recommended by a friend. And I grabbed his History of Sexuality vol 1 and 2 because it caught my interest.