• diablexical@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Sounds independent to me. Forget your pedantic nonsense.

    As does Taiwan to me, and right back at you comrade.

    • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      So the “nation” that doesn’t even consider itself independent sounds independent to you?

      And I’m the one being pedantic?

      Sorry to say but independence isn’t a vibe.

      It’s not a vibe based analysis.

      • diablexical@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        that doesn’t even consider itself independent

        How does it not consider itself independent?

        • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          the government doesn't. Government don't reflect the will of the people. Even if the people want a "free taiwan" the government will constantly pursue a policy of reunification under their government.

          • diablexical@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            Government don’t reflect the will of the people

            In some countries laws are put to the vote of the population, enacted, and enforced. Would you deny that is a reflection of the people's will?

            the government will constantly pursue a policy of reunification under their government

            This is untrue. The Tsai Ing-wen administration maintains that Taiwan is already an independent country as the Republic of China and thus does not have to push for any sort of formal independence. They want to maintain the status quo because they don't want their population slaughtered. As does the population. Almost like they are the same. Sort of like a reflection.

            • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              In some countries laws are put to the vote of the population, enacted, and enforced. Would you deny that is a reflection of the people's will?

              Bourgeoisie democracies serve the rich first, the corporations first. Democracy of the dollar always favors the ones with the most dollars. I will rightfully claim that most people do not feel represented by their neoliberal country's government.

              Also how do you claim to be a different, independent government, but also claim to be china? They also have claims on Tibet and Mongolia!

        • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 year ago

          Article 4 of the constitution:

          The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly.

          Which means they're not independent of the rest of China. They also claim parts of Japan, Korea, Myanmar, Bhutan, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Russia, and according to Vietnam parts of Vietnam. Their territorial claims aren't ancient by the way, they were revised in 2002, when they accepted Mongolia's sovereignty.

      • randint@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        So the “nation” that doesn’t even consider itself independent sounds independent to you?

        They cannot claim themselves independent or else China would attack. Don't you think it's kind of ludicrous that a country can force another "region" to not be independent by threatening them?

        • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          What are your opinions on the civil war in the US?

          Should the confederacy have been allowed to leave without threat of force?