https://pca.st/episode/312d5284-2917-4b02-87c5-3cb25cea0385

Like, is any of this shit real? It's so surreal the contrast between this shit and, like, CNN or The Pod Johns.

But a good run down on the Hunter Biden story, only 1% I had heard before listening to this, if true, I suppose.

What's people's opinions on the host? They seem trustworthy and on the up and up, but like I said, its so surreal.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I completely understand the feeling. I feel the same way and I embrace it.

    When I listen I often look up what they talk about - and it's all verifiable. I haven't listened to that episode, but everything liz and brace say is backed up with facts, quotes, sources, etc. Everytime I've checked.

    • Will2Live [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      what about that 9/11 truther shit they did a while back, that was the moment i stepped back and like, okay maybe these guys are a little kooky

      • LangdonAlger [any]
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        4 years ago

        The first couple parts were good. Like the recovered data from hard drives in wtc7 that showed a ton of suspicious trade deals up until a few minutes before collapse

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah that's a good point. That one was a little umm, unsourced.

        I feel like it's a bit different because it is a very tinfoil hat topic, but you're right, I really don't know how much I don't know about a lot of other topics.

      • artangels [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        i believe everything they said those episodes, and no, i will not go look it up myself.

        • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          They get pretty out there, but at the end they say essentially "we don't really know what happened". Really hard to tell what they believe about 9/11 and what they were just covering since other 9/11 truthers believe it. Lots of dumb shit though, my respect for them went down a little.

    • Not_irony [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Good to know. I feel like my bs detector is functionally, but I was/am a lib for most my life

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Well, I was/am also a super lib most of my life, so I don't know. Maybe we're both getting duped. But how and why?

        Will2live had a good point about their 9/11 truther episode. It was based in a lot of conjecture and (cra-see) interpretations of video evidence and tinfoil hat conspiracy treated as more truthy then it should be.

        But I still feel that almost all of their historical stuff is researched and based in documentation and their interpretations of class theory.

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The spider network episodes blew my mind. Like I feel like Not_Irony was describing, like I'm being gaslighted, but I not by true anon, by the rest of media and history that I have been taught.

    • read_freire [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      it’s all verifiable

      certainly verifiable, but verifiably false a good chunk of the time

      In their gates foundation episode they talk about a malaria vaccine trial in India that resulted in high rates of irreversible negative outcomes, charaterizing the vaccine as experimental and the trial as not even an efficacy/safety expirment but a public health expirement to test willingness to vaccinate.

      Problem is that it's conflating two separate trials, a gardasil trial that was to gauge willingness to vaccinate (gardasil being one of the best tested vaccines humanity has) and an actual FDA stage 3 trial of an experimental malaria drug. A half-hour of internet research and reading the actual fucking abstracts of these published papers was enough to discover the truth.

      doesn't make the gates foundation any less neocolonial eugenic bullshit, but if you parrot the trueanon bullshit your argument loses legitimacy

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Thanks. I haven't fact checked everything on true anon, of course, but what I have has a pretty good track record - saying that, it's pretty clear when they're talking about something they know a lot about and when they're just reading notes that they've made.

        I certainly trust them a lot more on the former types of episodes than on the latter, which the Gates foundation episodes were for sure.

        I do like to hear when they're wrong about things, though.