• purgegf [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This, and your post above is the reason why I can't advocate for voting against Biden right now. America is not in a position to survive much else.

    • Elyssius [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yea, I'd say if we wanna save America Biden needs to win. Which is a pretty solid argument to vote for Trump

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        This country fucking sucks but it's never going to just disappear. It will go full fascist before it simply collapses. As bad as things are now, they can get a lot worse.

        I think the strategy has to be:

        1. Fight like hell to make America into something other than a capitalist hellscape.
        2. If that fails in the short term, at least try to steer the country away from full-blown fascism while regrouping to continue fighting for Option 1.
        3. Always be organizing, radicalizing, agitating, and arming yourself.
        • Elyssius [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yea what I said was more of joke, I wouldn't actually advise voting for Trump. Just saying that there's something to look forward to even in the darkest timeline

          As for what you said, 100% true, but if America starts collapsing into a fascist shithole, at the very least they'd be much less able to continue funding coups, insurgencies, and assassinations in left-wing countries

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            if America starts collapsing into a fascist shithole, at the very least they’d be much less able to continue funding coups, insurgencies, and assassinations in left-wing countries

            Maybe. I think the military-industrial complex will be able to perpetuate itself in this scenario. Fascists love the military and external enemies, after all.

            • Elyssius [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Oh, the military industrial congressional complex will absolutely carry on long after America falls, if this is the route America goes down - but they'd mostly be focused inwards, on oppressing the people and repressing resistance. Still a bleak look, but it will provide a window for our international comrades to build power (and hopefully reach a point where neoliberal states can no longer outright depose of them)