• femboy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In Communist China, every citizen has a 'social credit score', a numerical expression based on a level analysis of a person's financial situation. Lenders, such as banks and credit card companies, use social credit scores to evaluate the potential risk posed by lending money to consumers and to mitigate losses due to bad debt. Your social credit score determines the cost of your insurance and dictates whether you can get a loan and at what interest rate. jk this is the credit score in amerika

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Had me in the first half. I was already preparing my :angery: reply in my head lol

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    The best part about the Social Credit Score hysteria is that to make it sound evil they framed it as a credit score, because everyone already knows those are bad.

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Good point on how the discussion is framed along established biases.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        It's exactly the same as right-wing allegations that China is imperialistic or that it treats minorities poorly. The immediate response should be "so you're saying those things are bad?"

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      It is such a super-secret, yet all-controlling system, that the people don't even notice it. Pure evil.
      But honestly, it is just a conspiracy theory purported by our dear leaders in the west.

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you actually want to know what’s going on with ‘social credit’ read this: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/social-credit-the-law/

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      So basically, it’s a consolidation of various regulatory and administrative ratings, records, and blacklists into one system

  • cadence [they/them,she/her]
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    4 years ago

    As of November 2019, in addition to dishonest and fraudulent financial behavior, other behavior that some cities have officially listed as negative factors of credit ratings includes playing loud music or eating in rapid transits,[31] violating traffic rules such as jaywalking and red-light violations,[32][33] making reservations at restaurants or hotels but not showing up,[34] failing to correctly sort personal waste,[35][36][37] fraudulently using other people's public transportation ID cards,[38] etc; on the other hand, behavior listed as positive factors of credit ratings includes donating blood, donating to charity, volunteering for community services, and so on.[39][40][41]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_System

    this just sounds like a good thing though???? like, the world would definitely be a better place if these things happened.

    sure beats the magic numbers they have the united states that they call a "credit score" which instead of being based on doing good things is based on having money, i.e., doing bad things.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Note also that literally all of those negative things can be held against you right here in the U.S. of A. Most of those will get you a ticket or a more serious criminal charge, both of which cost money and hassle to deal with and can impact your access to education, housing, and employment. Even the most mundane stuff -- making reservations and not showing up -- can lead to a private company charging you something or reducing your ability to do stuff in the future. Independent of whether it's a good idea to police these things, the conversation starts at "China is doing stuff the U.S. does," not "China is doing this horrible Black Mirror shit unheard of in the land of the free."

      Quite possibly the biggest difference here is that in the U.S. you can't improve your credit score by donating blood or volunteering at a food bank.

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
        hexagon
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        4 years ago

        Quite possibly the biggest difference here is that in the U.S. you can’t improve your credit score by donating blood or volunteering at a food bank.

        Just earn more money, you know the bootstraps thingy. Super easy.

  • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Meanwhile America is now factoring big data from tech companies into your financial credit score such as inane shit like what browser you use and what social media you use as some sort of technical calipers to determine whether or not you’re gonna default on your loans.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I’ve noticed this pattern wherein the status, official or unofficial, of a country being depicted as antagonistic towards the US and journalistic analysis of the country being piss poor go hand-in-hand.

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      I think it fits the general kind of humor of the sub and this site pretty well too.

    • kota [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Is a karma count definitely something that’s planned? It’s kinda nice being forced to not give a shit about the fake internet points on your account, but also maybe there’s some good reasons for it I dunno.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It must be surreal to be some average Chinese guy and see this stuff whenever they go to American websites.

  • Corbyn [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Ah, yeah, China, were you can openly voice dissent and never have to fear any repercussions.

    • CoralMarks [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      Didn't bother finishing reading the specific tweet you seem to refer to, huh?

      And it's a far cry from what most people in the west seem to believe, which is that in the year of our lord 2020 every Chinese person cowers in fear of expressing their political opinions, lest they tank their social credit score and die of starvation.