The simplest certs are A+, Network+ and Security+. Those would probably help get you in an entry level position somewhere. What really sucks is that it helps to know someone who will refer you to a job. That's how I got into IT at first, that's how i got my friend a job where im at now, and my workplace seems to go pretty heavily off references.
An IT recruiter would be a great way to get into a job, although sometimes they will dick you around. They tend to desperately need to fill positions so its easier, but sometimes youll go in expecting a certain gig and when youre interviewing theyll say "oh that ones not available but this one is" because they are kinda scammers. Once you get like 1 to 2 years of work experience though i found it super easy to get offers. I got canned from my first IT job for pretty lame reasons(i guess i had a bad interaction with a client who wasnt even contracted but they were friends with the owner of my employer) but then when i went around looking i was getting a lot of interest. I do have a history degree though(lol) and am almost finished with an IT degree so that maybe helped, but if you can skip school and do certifications I would. If you get in with the right company they will pay for certs and probably have some good training resources.
I got a history degree, floated around for a while and went back to school. Being in school and knowing someone got me the first job but now i kinda wish id just stopped going to school because it's pretty fucking worthless. Most of the teachers arent very knowledgeable or current enough in the field.
I have friends in IT who are looking out for me but they don't have a spot open yet. Been looking at Government jobs too but as you know it's all precarious as you know.
yea in my current job i have to get Security+ or Network+ to advance but i dont want to go in the field really. and the bar is pretty low for entry level, my employer took a reference and found out this guy apparently learned nothing in college, the same program im in. He didn't know what DHCP or DNS was, like even the basics.
my manager had a meeting and told the trainers that and we were like thats pretty fuckin bad. just tell me DHCP hands out IP addresses, you don't have to fix it. yeesh. so be better than that haha.
Well shit. That makes me feel worse for doing A+ and reading a text-book if someone that doesn't even self-study and just did a college course and cruised into a place gets a job in the industry over me. :(
i wish i knew how the fuck it happened. I was hired as a level 2 so I had a more thorough evaluation, but my friend who i referred didnt have the same complaints made about him. Yea it sucks that it is still about who you know cause im not very social. Im just lucky i went to high school with some good dudes. I didnt meet fuckin anybody at college though because my school was a 90% commuter school. Robert Half and places like them kinda suck but it's a means to an end. Maybe my area just really sucks for talent.
I've tried Robert Half and they're like "Honestly, you're probably better than most of the folks we refer to places!" which might be blowing smoke up my ass about their evaluation, but felt good. The issue was "but there's nothing your area for us to refer you to" which killed me.
I'm in a completely dead zone between two "hot" areas, and even those places won't even consider me even if I want to commute. It's frustrating. It's like this even outside of IT, so I don't blame the IT industry to the "entry level is fucking impossible to get into" situation, but damn: I've gotten certifications, I show willingness to learn (on the job and off the clock) and these places are like "nope, no experience. Let's hire this college kid that just coasted through classes! :)!" and it makes me want to firebomb.
they are out there, somewhere. Most of the guys i work with did not go to college, but we do more lower level stuff, not so much with servers and whatnot.
Well, I'm trying help-desk. Which is the "what the fuck," part. You'd think they'd need warm bodies to deal with people, but even law firms are like "nah, let's not hire them."
law firms probably don't have the ability to have a large IT team so they want one guy who can do it all. Try looking for an MSP(managed service provider.) I'd like to get to something corporate where i dont have to deal with clients anymore but its where i got started. A lot of them arent huge companies either so it's a bit more personal.
The simplest certs are A+, Network+ and Security+. Those would probably help get you in an entry level position somewhere. What really sucks is that it helps to know someone who will refer you to a job. That's how I got into IT at first, that's how i got my friend a job where im at now, and my workplace seems to go pretty heavily off references.
An IT recruiter would be a great way to get into a job, although sometimes they will dick you around. They tend to desperately need to fill positions so its easier, but sometimes youll go in expecting a certain gig and when youre interviewing theyll say "oh that ones not available but this one is" because they are kinda scammers. Once you get like 1 to 2 years of work experience though i found it super easy to get offers. I got canned from my first IT job for pretty lame reasons(i guess i had a bad interaction with a client who wasnt even contracted but they were friends with the owner of my employer) but then when i went around looking i was getting a lot of interest. I do have a history degree though(lol) and am almost finished with an IT degree so that maybe helped, but if you can skip school and do certifications I would. If you get in with the right company they will pay for certs and probably have some good training resources.
I got a history degree, floated around for a while and went back to school. Being in school and knowing someone got me the first job but now i kinda wish id just stopped going to school because it's pretty fucking worthless. Most of the teachers arent very knowledgeable or current enough in the field.
I have friends in IT who are looking out for me but they don't have a spot open yet. Been looking at Government jobs too but as you know it's all precarious as you know.
government jobs will likely want a Security+ or Network+ more than A+.
In my experience they push for A+ for entry level, guys i know with no experience and dumber than I am got in... and that's what theyre doing atm.
But thats just my location, im sure a network or security is obviously better though
yea in my current job i have to get Security+ or Network+ to advance but i dont want to go in the field really. and the bar is pretty low for entry level, my employer took a reference and found out this guy apparently learned nothing in college, the same program im in. He didn't know what DHCP or DNS was, like even the basics.
Lmao what...?
my manager had a meeting and told the trainers that and we were like thats pretty fuckin bad. just tell me DHCP hands out IP addresses, you don't have to fix it. yeesh. so be better than that haha.
Well shit. That makes me feel worse for doing A+ and reading a text-book if someone that doesn't even self-study and just did a college course and cruised into a place gets a job in the industry over me. :(
i wish i knew how the fuck it happened. I was hired as a level 2 so I had a more thorough evaluation, but my friend who i referred didnt have the same complaints made about him. Yea it sucks that it is still about who you know cause im not very social. Im just lucky i went to high school with some good dudes. I didnt meet fuckin anybody at college though because my school was a 90% commuter school. Robert Half and places like them kinda suck but it's a means to an end. Maybe my area just really sucks for talent.
I've tried Robert Half and they're like "Honestly, you're probably better than most of the folks we refer to places!" which might be blowing smoke up my ass about their evaluation, but felt good. The issue was "but there's nothing your area for us to refer you to" which killed me.
I'm in a completely dead zone between two "hot" areas, and even those places won't even consider me even if I want to commute. It's frustrating. It's like this even outside of IT, so I don't blame the IT industry to the "entry level is fucking impossible to get into" situation, but damn: I've gotten certifications, I show willingness to learn (on the job and off the clock) and these places are like "nope, no experience. Let's hire this college kid that just coasted through classes! :)!" and it makes me want to firebomb.
they are out there, somewhere. Most of the guys i work with did not go to college, but we do more lower level stuff, not so much with servers and whatnot.
Well, I'm trying help-desk. Which is the "what the fuck," part. You'd think they'd need warm bodies to deal with people, but even law firms are like "nah, let's not hire them."
law firms probably don't have the ability to have a large IT team so they want one guy who can do it all. Try looking for an MSP(managed service provider.) I'd like to get to something corporate where i dont have to deal with clients anymore but its where i got started. A lot of them arent huge companies either so it's a bit more personal.
I've been trying dice and indeed, is there any other job boards I should be looking at?
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It's the fucking devil but LinkedIn as well as what was suggested below.
My experience with LinkedIn has been mild. It's job board is pretty meh and being "Active to Recruitment" has given me zero (0) responses.