https://twitter.com/ElloEllenOh/status/1333591475888787457?s=19

  • gay [any]
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    4 years ago

    1984. You're really gonna make a bunch of teens read about Winston being a misogynist who has a vivid rape fantasy about a woman he doesn't know... and act like it's okay because muh Big Brother. They don't teach teens about sexual violence but make them read about it, why?

    • gay [any]
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      4 years ago

      ANYWAYS, stan Fahrenheit 451!

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          1984 wishes it could have the emotional impact of Fahrenheit 451. I'm about to cry just thinking about its characters, Winston can choke. Also all the accurate predictions, lol

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        Every so often I think about Brave New World and how despite it being an open attempt at portraying a content-stripped, mechanised world where only the shallowest of pleasures are allowed it's arguably better and more meaningful to live in than the current one

        • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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          I read it as a teen and the only thing I got out of it was that everyone fucked a lot and they appreciated a juicy ass. I was a pretty dumb kid.

    • cum_drinker69 [any]
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      4 years ago

      All 1984 did was give dumb reactionaries a shorthand for the government doing any activity (except war because that's good and you're definitely not propagandized on that front). Now it's like "they're replacing the curbs in my neighborhood, this is what GEORGE ORWELL warned us about!" Just an awful, awful legacy.

    • Amorphous [any]
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      4 years ago

      I recently read 1984 and that bit was incredibly fucking gross. Pretty much the first thing he says to this woman, when they finally get away from the surveillance and have a moment to get to know each other, is, "Hi. Only a matter of days ago, I fantasized about brutally raping and murdering you." And she's just like "ok, lets fuck"

      That was the exact moment where I went from "ok this is shallow and dull and unimaginative and transparent, but i guess it's not 100% terrible" to "fuck this book"

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      4 years ago

      Honestly this. I'm probably more of an Orwell apologist than most c.c posters, but I don't think that or Animal Farm have ever been presented as anything but anti-communist propaganda in American public schools, and they're admittedly quite fit for that purpose.

      • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah I can’t wait til my nephew reads animal farm for school so I can give him some extra nuance about where Orwell comes from and his role in “anti fascism” so to speak.

          • Leper_Messiah [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Well, shit. I didn't remember that bit tbh

            Wait, didn't Orwell allegedly try to rape his childhood friend or cousin or something? I seem to remember hearing that at one point. I guess that might explain his literary tendencies, huh

            Man, fuck that guy. I agree with one of the other comments in here, Fahrenheit 451 beats the shit out of 1984, and Bradbury was a much, much better writer overall.