• ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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      Does “existing when the US wishes you didn’t” count as imperialism now?

      I am convinced that :this: and 'having an army' are enough for libs to call a country imperialist.

        • RedDiamond [she/her,they/them]
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          if the people of Hong Kong were to desire independence, do they have a right to self-determination?

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              I also agree that they (as well as every people) have a right to self-determination, but the available alternative to having Chinese masters isn't independence, it's having some Western masters, some Chinese masters. (Dependence on China is inevitable - it's the overwhelmingly biggest economic partner and cultural influencer.) There may be some benefits to some in Hong Kong to straddle the two worlds, but it sparks obvious backlash from China - no major power can tolerate a constituent part/close neighbor with dual loyalties, particularly when the loyalty is to their rivals. So while Hong Kong has its rights, China can't afford to act disinterested in this dog-eat-dog world.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      They use words they don't know the meanings of as a clumsy cudgel to seem like they know what they're talking about

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    The "DPRK is fascist" meme pisses me off to no end.

    Posting this again, from a speech by Kim Jong-il:

    We do not assert that the Koreans’ biological constitution is more developed than those of other races. Defining the superiority of a nation according to biological or ethnic characteristics is the practice of reactionary, bourgeois ethnology. Arguing that national characteristics are defined by racial characteristics, bourgeois ethnologists classify people according to skin colours, namely white people as a “higher race” and coloured people as a “lower race”. They say that only a “higher race” can create advanced civilization. The reactionary ethnological doctrine has been used by imperialists as an ideological instrument for their policy of racial discrimination and obliteration of nations. Imperialists still use the bourgeois ethnological doctrine as an instrument to justify their domination over other nations, to spread national nihilism, the idea of subservience to great powers and the idea of dependence on foreign forces among the people of colonial, dependent countries and the people of the third world, and to obstruct their national independence and independent development. Fundamentally speaking, there can be no “higher race” or “lower race”. All the races are endowed with creative intelligence and ability. The low level of civilization of nations under colonial subjugation in the past is not due to any inborn inability, but is the consequence of the imperialists’ predatory policy and their policy of keeping colonial people in ignorance. The people of the third world, who were despised by the imperialists as a “lower race”, have now become the masters of their destiny, are making brilliant successes in the creation of a new life and are steadily raising the level of their civilization. By contrast, in the United States, where the white people who claimed to be the most developed race make up the overwhelming majority of her population, illiterate people are daily growing in number and their intellectual level is gradually dropping. The fact patently proves the fallacy of the bourgeois ethnological doctrine.

    Our country has neither a large population nor a large territory, nor is it an economic power. There is no reason for us to look down upon other nations or reject them. National chauvinism is a reactionary idea of the exploiting class and the imperialists.

    Reactionary racism and national chauvinism, which were used by imperialists as their ideological instrument for aggression and domination, have been categorically rejected by progressive humanity. The Japanese imperialists, who clamoured for the “mission” of “leadership” over other nations by claiming the “superiority” of the “Yamato race”, and the German fascists, who attempted world domination by advertising the “superiority” of the “Aryan race”, received the judgement of history. In spite of this, the US and other imperialists are still using racism and national chauvinism in justifying their domination and plunder of other nations.

  • Amorphous [any]
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    god i always love to see people talking about the dprk's "caste system"

    you know, the thing which citizens of the dprk have never heard of and express confusion when asked about

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      Those aren't real citizens, only the ones that go on TV and dance for a few bucks so they can eat after being kidnapped by South Korea as propaganda tools are real.

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      There is the Songbun system but it’s not a caste system, it’s literally just a description of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. It’s literally just “revolutionaries and workers are the ruling class, ex-reactionaries, traitors, lawyers, business owners and Christian ministers are the lowest class”.

      Which is literally what Marx described

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        There is the Songbun system

        [citation needed]

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      "caste" is just a buzzword with no meaning whatsoever.

      It literally doesn't exist outside of continental India

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      Ask this lib: https://old.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/k9vb7o/psa/gf80oq4/?context=1

  • Hungover [he/him]
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    demonization of the United States

    :yes: :party-sicko: :amerikkka:

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    a country goes crazy trying to fight internal threats after gusanos assisted in genociding 15% of the population and destroying 85% of all standing structures: i sleep

    leader of that country says mean things to my country: real shit

    • ARVSPEX [none/use name]
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      North Korea is known for [...] wanting to rule everybody else

      Of course they do, why else would they have nukes?!

      t. :galaxy-brain:

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      Remember those times that DPRK invaded all their neighbors and set up colonies?

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        Even better, remember when the DPRK invaded countries on entirely different continents using false pretenses?

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        Wherever you read it, The Cleanest Race is probably the source. It is orientalist nonsense.

        It's racial fan-fiction written by an American Brat, who cannot hide the fact he thinks Korean people are all inferior dullards.

        Since this is not a Marxist-Leninist state committed to the improvement ofmaterial living standards, but rather a nationalist one in which the leader’s main function is to embody Korean virtues—which are not seen to include intellectual brilliance anyway—the relative inferiority of Kim Jong Il’s genius troubles propagandists less than an outsider might assume. It is in no small part because he appears more human and vulnerable than Kim Il Sung, and thus a more convincing embodiment of the child race itself, that the Dear Leader is so dear to his people, even if he is not as fervently venerated as his father.

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        Nope. Juche is super humanist and progressive and egalitarian.

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    This sounds like Brian Reynolds Myers shit, who is widely loathed by North Korea watchers and researchers. All he does is literary criticism of North Korea propaganda. That's it. He knows next to nothing about actual North Korean society and government. And as a result he has invented an alternate history for North Korea based solely on his interpretation of their outward facing propaganda and communications. Like he thinks Kim Il Sung founded the country as a facist project in the model of facist Japan becuase ... he thinks Kim Il Sung looks too angry on a poster. Also it's not a coincidence all his conclusions mirror and reinforce the preexisting prejudices of his western readers, which in the end is what really explains the popularity of his books.

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    Actually, with a pretty strict caste system, isolationism, idealization of the military, extreme nationalism, heavy imperialism, deification of the flag, propaganda based on exceptionalism and glorification of military past, demonization of China, absolute disregard for most basic human rights and of the idea of a "common good" for the sake of individualism and "freedom" and so on, the United States is pretty similar politically, socially and ideologically from fascism [...]