This thought occurred to me while playing CP2077, but it's prevalent in a TON of games - instant kills by sneaking up behind enemies.

I usually play stealthy if given the option, I find it more fun than just wading through people in an ocean of blood, but this mechanic is almost game breaking in most places it appears. No matter how outgunned you are, all you have to do is wait til the enemy NPCs backs are turned for an instant, low-risk kill. Sure, some games make you grab them first before the kill, leaving a slight window where you can be spotted by another enemy or whatever, but with the tiniest modicum of planning that risk is almost nil.

In the case of CP2077, the stealth kill is available right from the start as well, so for someone like me who likes to play the stealthy way, there's barely any reason to spec into any other shit (except for the abilities which make it easier for me to sneak around dudes for the instant kill, lol).

If instant stealth kills weren't a thing, there'd be much more challenge in trying to ACTUALLY be stealthy, i.e. sneaking around enemies without killing/incapacitating them, completing your objective, then sneaking back out unseen. Of course, there are some games that reward this playstyle (MGS for example). But plenty of other games (including '77, not trying to dunk on it exclusively it's just freshest in my mind) will give you bonus rewards for "not leaving a trace behind" (i.e. not having a combat alert) when you've actually left a trail of snapped necks.

I don't really know what I'd like to see instead - I guess games where there's better application of stealth are usually ones that are designed with the stealthy playstyle from the ground up (the Arkham series, MGS). And I appreciate they're trying to give you a reward for creeping up on people, but like I said, it's almost game breaking with its effectiveness in most games. What do y'all think?

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    What really bothers me with stealth in cyberpunk is that sneaking up to rub the guys back is an instantkill but sneaking up behind him to shoot him in the head with my silenced pistol just makes the enemies pissed off and suddenly alerts the entire building to my presence. Same with hacking. At least give us more options for our stealth missions than just forcing me to slowly walk up to everyone. I want to silently take people down at distance too

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      100% agree. I spec’d into stealth damage and handguns, but still have a 50/50 chance of downing the guy with a headshot or alerting the entire enemy garrison if the shot doesn’t crit. Then again a guaranteed one hit kill is literally what this post is complaining about lol.

      So then the question is “how do you do stealth without IK, but without failure to kill in one shot instantly blowing the mission?” Hard to thread that needle in a way that isn’t contrived.