Wait. You mean a country that takes education seriously and doesn't kowtow to religious nonsense is better at science than a country where "evolution is just a theory" appears in high school textbooks?
Who could have guessed?
(Before you jump on me, this is not an endorsement of the Chinese government, or even their education system; it's just an acknowledgement of one aspect of the two nations education systems).
China may not have religious nonsense in textbooks post-genocide Cultural Revolution, but it does have superstitious nonsense so your distinction isn't really valuable.
The real reason is that China has a huge population 4x that of the US, and like you already mentioned has a strong culture of valuing education because like in most recently (or currently) impoverished nations education is often the best way to improve your conditions. The US doesn't really have this problem, college graduates make more money but the alternative isn't living in abject poverty or even starving; most highschool graduates do just fine.
"It's just an acknowledgement of one aspect of the two nations education systems"
How does one acknowledge a distinction that doesn't exist in reality?
Nope, I pretty clearly said population size and then provided a description of why poor or nouveau-riche countries tend to highly prioritize education unlike the US.
Nope, I pretty clearly said population size and then provided a description of why poor or nouveau-riche countries tend to highly prioritize education unlike the US.
uh that
thats the thing he was making fun of
its very obvious you're also from a country that doesn't prioritize education
China may not have religious nonsense in textbooks post-genocide Cultural Revolution, but it does have superstitious nonsense so your distinction isn't really valuable.
China has superstitious nonsense in it's textbooks? Such as what?
The real reason is that China has a huge population 4x that of the US
you mean the fact they've had a larger population than everyone else for the past 10,000 years? you mean that China?
The US doesn't really have this problem, college graduates make more money but the alternative isn't living in abject poverty or even starving; most highschool graduates do just fine.
you don't fucking live in reality do you, Im getting a Global Environmental Science major and Im still going to probably end up homeless regardless. Do you live in a fucking suburb? Get a grip.
China may not have religious nonsense in textbooks post-genocide Cultural Revolution
Also I know with certainty that you have never actually read anything about the Cultural revolution besides shitty memes and low effort social media rage-bait.
Also I know with certainty that you have never actually read anything about the Cultural revolution besides shitty memes and low effort social media rage-bait.
Maybe they're a Sparrow-American and hold old grudges.
"You mean the fact that they have had a larger population than anyone else"
Having a large population doesn't mean anything if you don't have the infrastructure to propagate knowledge. This is why countries like India and Nigeria are also very rapidly climbing in the ranks.
Also China didn't exist as a continuous state for that long so claiming that it's the "most populous country for 10,000 years" or even 1,000 years is severely misleading. Many empires were larger and more populous congruent with China's existence as a contiguous territory.
"I'm getting a Global Environmental Science major and I'm still going to probably end up homeless."
If I take a pottery class, does the teacher have a responsibility to ensure that I make a profit in pottery? Or are they just to teach me pottery because that's what I wanted to learn? The fact that a degree exists does not guarantee that people will hire you for it. It's for people that want to learn, not only for people who want a career out of it.
Additionally, if you actually care about the environment a foundational degree like physics, chemistry or engineering (or chemical engineering), is going to be both more profitable for you and grant you far greater control over the environmental impact of industrial processes. Actual environmental improvements come from developing technologies, protesting only helps implementing technologies already developed. (And you can influence industries to adopt better procedures more effectively if you already work in those industries). Just my two cents as a STEM lord who has yet to meet a more insane tree-hugger than myself.
"Do you live in a suburb"
Yes, because people who live in suburbs must be out of touch, clearly the person who is out of touch can't be an undergrad who makes numerous false statements in a casual conversation.
If we are having a poverty competition, pretty sure I'm winning. I've actually been homeless/unsheltered, it's easily survivable as long as you aren't spending all your time strung out on heroin. (And despite what you or the other lefty fear mongers claim, filing for bankruptcy doesn't cause you to lose shelter).
Wait. You mean a country that takes education seriously and doesn't kowtow to religious nonsense is better at science than a country where "evolution is just a theory" appears in high school textbooks?
Who could have guessed?
(Before you jump on me, this is not an endorsement of the Chinese government, or even their education system; it's just an acknowledgement of one aspect of the two nations education systems).
China may not have religious nonsense in textbooks post-
genocideCultural Revolution, but it does have superstitious nonsense so your distinction isn't really valuable.The real reason is that China has a huge population 4x that of the US, and like you already mentioned has a strong culture of valuing education because like in most recently (or currently) impoverished nations education is often the best way to improve your conditions. The US doesn't really have this problem, college graduates make more money but the alternative isn't living in abject poverty or even starving; most highschool graduates do just fine.
"It's just an acknowledgement of one aspect of the two nations education systems"
How does one acknowledge a distinction that doesn't exist in reality?
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Nope, I pretty clearly said population size and then provided a description of why poor or nouveau-riche countries tend to highly prioritize education unlike the US.
uh that
thats the thing he was making fun of
its very obvious you're also from a country that doesn't prioritize education
"That's the thing he (?) was making fun of"
A perfectly accurate statement? One can poke fun at anything this doesn't make the statement any weaker unless it is actually a valid criticism.
"It's very obvious that you are also from a country that doesn't prioritize education"
And you logically deducted this how?
Who am I kidding, an ML use logic? This reminds me of when I debated noted moron and hack programmer Dessalines (aka parentis_shotgun).
Wow. Just had to be a dick, didn't you? Well, big man, hope you have a nice day.
"Oh, no someone politely pointed out that I asserted unfounded conjectures as true on a public forum, what a dick!"
"Oh no, someone pointed out I'm a dick in a public forum! I'll mock him because that's that's dicks do!"
Sad dude. Just be less of a dick.
China has superstitious nonsense in it's textbooks? Such as what?
you mean the fact they've had a larger population than everyone else for the past 10,000 years? you mean that China?
you don't fucking live in reality do you, Im getting a Global Environmental Science major and Im still going to probably end up homeless regardless. Do you live in a fucking suburb? Get a grip.
Also I know with certainty that you have never actually read anything about the Cultural revolution besides shitty memes and low effort social media rage-bait.
You need to grow up, kid
Maybe they're a Sparrow-American and hold old grudges.
"You mean the fact that they have had a larger population than anyone else"
Having a large population doesn't mean anything if you don't have the infrastructure to propagate knowledge. This is why countries like India and Nigeria are also very rapidly climbing in the ranks.
Also China didn't exist as a continuous state for that long so claiming that it's the "most populous country for 10,000 years" or even 1,000 years is severely misleading. Many empires were larger and more populous congruent with China's existence as a contiguous territory.
"I'm getting a Global Environmental Science major and I'm still going to probably end up homeless."
If I take a pottery class, does the teacher have a responsibility to ensure that I make a profit in pottery? Or are they just to teach me pottery because that's what I wanted to learn? The fact that a degree exists does not guarantee that people will hire you for it. It's for people that want to learn, not only for people who want a career out of it.
Additionally, if you actually care about the environment a foundational degree like physics, chemistry or engineering (or chemical engineering), is going to be both more profitable for you and grant you far greater control over the environmental impact of industrial processes. Actual environmental improvements come from developing technologies, protesting only helps implementing technologies already developed. (And you can influence industries to adopt better procedures more effectively if you already work in those industries). Just my two cents as a STEM lord who has yet to meet a more insane tree-hugger than myself.
"Do you live in a suburb"
Yes, because people who live in suburbs must be out of touch, clearly the person who is out of touch can't be an undergrad who makes numerous false statements in a casual conversation.
If we are having a poverty competition, pretty sure I'm winning. I've actually been homeless/unsheltered, it's easily survivable as long as you aren't spending all your time strung out on heroin. (And despite what you or the other lefty fear mongers claim, filing for bankruptcy doesn't cause you to lose shelter).
I have and will continue to endorse the government of the People's Republic of China, the one true China