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  • SimonSaysLibertad [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Except it hasn't BEEN UP FOR A VOTE. Fucking Kamala Harris co-sponsored the bill and doesn't support it

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Fucking Kamala Harris co-sponsored the bill and doesn’t support it

      Oh so you mean you can figure out who supports M4A without needing a vote?

      • SimonSaysLibertad [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Tell that to the clowns ive talked to who say bc she co-sponsored the bill she's left wing or the many chuds who bring that up to say she's some sort of left wing Politician

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          There's also the matter of how every single congressional Democrat could vote for it and it still wouldn't pass. Anyone who wants to feign support could do so without any real risk.

              • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                Using the one time you have leverage (becaus e we all know Biden's gonna be terrible, so the dems lose the house in 2022) to get a vote on medicare for all (which is extremely popular) during a deadly pandemic when millions just lost their employer-based healthcare isn't the way forward?

                How much better do the conditions need to be?

                • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  There is no leverage here, because no matter what we do we're not getting M4A out of this. We're not even getting a list of people who oppose M4A -- we already know that, we just had a primary where it was an issue.

                  • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    There is no leverage here, because no matter what we do we’re not getting M4A out of this

                    There is leverage, because nobody becomes speaker if that person doesn't have a majority of the votes. No republican will ever vote for a democratic candidate for speaker, so just 5 progressives (we already have those numbers) can block congress from functioning normally for as long as they want.

                    We’re not even getting a list of people who oppose M4A – we already know that, we just had a primary where it was an issue.

                    You and I know that. But class struggle is build by engaging in the same fight over and over again, and broadening the group of people who you're influencing in that proces.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              Say they do. We still don't have M4A. Congratulations, we've accomplished nothing. Well I guess maybe we gave some conservative Democrats weasel room in the next primary, cool cool