Does this mean Progressives are more electable than centrists?
The boring, wonky (but probably correct) answer is that Loeffler was a uniquely bad candidate. She was appointed, had never run a campaign before, and ran as a hard-MAGA lunatic whose only accomplishment in the Senate for the one year she was there was massive insider trading. Even your typical lanyard libs knew Warnock was gonna have better numbers than Ossoff.
Yeah she was a historically bad senator honestly and that says a lot considering they’re all senators in the US
The thing that gets me about Kelly Loeffler is how uniquely phony she was.
You had this woman who has a net worth of $800 million try to act stereotypically rural, namely wearing clothes and participating in activities that were more "rural".
If she may have just acted and presented herself as she normally would have, just as somebody who owns the libs, she may have been elected to continue her term. I mean, you didn't see Donald Trump dressing up like somebody from Hee Haw or acting like he was a regular at the local shooting range.
The problem is if she did that she would have lost the primary. She was up against congressman Doug Collins who is a staunch Trump ally (Trump asked Kemp to appoint Collins, Kemp appointed Loeffler because "suburban woman amirite"). Loeffler won the primary 26% to 20% (it's a jungle primary so that's why the numbers are small) with help from MAGA loons to fend off Collins. That sealed her fate in the general, though.
I guess what I meant was that Loeffler would have been smart to essentially just be a female Trump, rather than doing the whole faux-country act.
Loeffler won the primary 26% to 20% (it’s a jungle primary so that’s why the numbers are small) with help from MAGA loons to fend off Collins. That sealed her fate in the general, though.
The Republicans will continue to have an issue in the coming years where, in order to win a statewide election, you need to appeal to people beyond chuds. However, to win the Republican nomination in that same election, you need to be a complete Breitbart-esque moron.
100% agreed there. Your average Republican primary voter is a bleach-guzzling QAnon maniac.
The Republicans will continue to have an issue in the coming years where, in order to win a statewide election, you need to appeal to people beyond chuds. However, to win the Republican nomination in that same election, you need to be a complete
BreitbartDrudge Report-esque moron.-some lib circa 2010
Her rural thing reminds me of how Jason Kenney in Alberta would show up to events in a massive lifted pickup truck wearing a cowboy hat.
She's also a shrill, uncharismatic, rich white woman and voters in general prefer white men over white women.
It's less that Ossoff is bad, and more than Loeffler is.
hopefully she runs again so we can see more banger ads like this https://twitter.com/kloeffler/status/1308114691387019266
yes - and honestly i was hoping ossoff would lose to send a message. that message probably wouldn’t be received, but a rich fuck who thinks healthcare shouldn’t be equal should be purged
from the partftfy
Ossoff winning and the Dems then accomplishing absolutely nothing for 2 years is the most important thing for advancing the left wing cause. Also Bernie being budget chairman is actually a very good thing.
He's already ranking member, so unless he quits to join the cabinet or something then I don't see anything wrong here.
who thinks healthcare shouldn’t be equal
Warnock is not for M4A either
Librals admit that maybe progressives have a point?
:michael-laugh:
People like Warnock because he actually works in the community and wasn’t raised with a silver spoon in his mouth like Ossoff
Yes but Dems don't care. They literally cannot move left. The excuses will start immediately, and any kind of calling out of the excuses will be dismissed with the same hand waving.
historically? anti-war, pro-globalization/international cooperation
also white supremacist/shovenist and eugenicist
Woodrow Wilson is the ur-progressive
Wilson is the ur-liberal dude literally joined a world war for monetary gain.
Robert Lafollette would be more like the ur-progressive right?
There's a lot of overlap between 19th century progressivism and 19th century liberalism, both were big fans of social darwinism.
WW campaigned on compulsory sterilization & signed a bill that did it in NJ. He wrote for Harper's, kept black people out of Princeton when he was president there, and he segregated the civil service once he became president. He told Ho Chi Minh to fuck off at Versailles.
Warnock is a progressive that ran as a moderate, and is therefore actually just a moderate. However his old sermons are almost comparable to the likes of Jeremiah Wright or William Barber.
He'd be considered a progressive within the dem party pre Bernie's 2016 campaign and would've voted against the Iraq war. I don't think the same can be said of Ossoff.
Oh damn, they both won? Did they actually work to get people to vote instead of throwing all the money they raised into TV ads and taking a cut?
Did they actually work to get people to vote instead of throwing all the money they raised into TV ads and taking a cut?
You know the answer. Trump not being on the ticket is the reason for this.
Not to be that guy but a part of it can be explained by christians not wanting to vote for a jew
It makes it more likely, but there are so many other factors to consider, like Loeffler being appointed vs Perdue who has at least won an election and is from a political/business dynasty in Georgia. Additionally, Warnock will not have had to work as hard as Ossoff for the significant black vote, not to mention the healthy undercurrent of antisemitism toward Ossoff. Jewish people make up about 1% of the population in Georgia and even less than that are practicing Jews, so even in the liberal and urban areas a lot of stereotypes go unchallenged.
Yes. Raphael- god damn America- Warnock! You have shocked the nation!
Tbh I think Ossoff's district was more competitive for Republicans too.
It's the senate, it's all one district. Do you mean race? B/c yeah I think a faceless mannequin with a D sticker could have beat Loeffler
Oh shit you're right. I thought O was like Cobb and Gwinnett counties for some reason (Atlanta suburbs).
