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          • sysgen [none/use name,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            It was completely integrated and build around cloud services, instead of being built on the lowest common denominator.

            If you build things from an open source ground base on bare metal, you're not reliant on AWS. You can use either of literally thousands of VPS hosts, and if THAT isn't possible for some obscure reason, you can get someone to put it on their computer at home - roll your own servers.

            Whereas if you use things like Twilio, S3, Lambda and so on, you have no option outside major tech companies. But if push comes to shove, we could pay bitcoin to some shady Ukrainian or Eritrean server host to have our website hosted.

              • read_freire [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                jokes on you the ancaps put their shit on aws

                they save that opsec for the cp

                that last bit started as a joke but I just realized it's not and now I'm irrationally angryrationally furious

                  • read_freire [they/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    eesh good point

                    I wonder if trying to avoid that was what got blueleaks raided.

                    Anyways it just speaks to the opsec power of fully distributed software like bittorrent over a client/server architecture. Web 2.0 and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

            • MerryChristmas [any]
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              4 years ago

              My leftover BTC from when I used to buy semi-legal drugs on the internet has grown to a couple of hundred dollars and I am happy to contribute.

              • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                How did you buy drugs with such few bitcoin if now it's a few hundred worth?

                • MerryChristmas [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  RCs were really cheap back then. They probably still are? Regardless, I always used to buy a little more BTC than I needed because you never knew when the price would drop and you'd be stuck with a bill that you could no longer afford to pay. The spare change was never enough to convert back to cash so I'd drop it in a wallet and forget about it.

                  Well, it's been several years and the price has doubled a few times over in the time since. It's still not much - $200 or so - but it was basically free money considering it started off as my digital change jar.

          • read_freire [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            The cloud is just someone else's computer, but Jeff Bezos's computer is going to serve the interests of capitol on a hair-trigger when compared w/ some rando vps* provider.

            The OP link gets into how they've been dropped by everyone (including Twilio & their lawyers most likely), and that's shit opsec/using us-based services because you know that the empire tolerates fash.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I'm aware, I don't really see how else you're supposed to run something like this without building your own servers. Even those other hosting platforms probably use AWS as some point. Amazon basically owns the internet at this point.

              • read_freire [they/them]
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                4 years ago

                EC2 wasn't the first game in VPSes, and they haven't put everyone out of business.