Americans will never do this. The best we can hope for is China and/or Russia using the funny mushroom cloud weapons :xi-plz:
Wasn't this OBL's intention with 9/11, to spark a second revolution in the USA?
Maybe, I've heard but not read for myself that part of his intention was to get US Americans to understand what it's like when your country gets bombed, because we definitely DGAF how many innocent brown people we kill. I think he also said every American should read Killing Hope, which they should. OBL's mistake then would be to assume a bunch of folks whose roots go deep into settler colonialism would have any empathy at all for said brown people.
I guess it's debatable if his plan succeeded or not. On the one hand it backfired and lead to his own death and a total destabilization of the muslim world but on the other it struck fear into the hearts of americans and now has us living under the harshest surveillance state in world history.
Destabilization of the Muslim world was already underway before 9/11. That just compounded the problem. Since like 1840, there's been perpetual colonial invasion or civil war. 9/11 was just when all barrels were pointed there
I'm curious what the muslim world thinks of communism. Do they see it as a viable solution to opposing imperialism?
Been talking to an Iraqi kid for the past couple months on Discord. From what I can gather, ISIS is seen as an imperialist threat (mostly foreigners, mainly from Australia and China), the USA is an imperialist threat, their government is a US puppet state, everyone just wants their land back and the imperialists gone.
He didn't know too much about socialism, but as I started explaining the basics of imperialism and capitalism, he just kept agreeing. Even talked about Vietnam and he looked up to their revolution as a good thing.
Most young people seem to want to get out though. They feel that the violence will never end. Germany and the USA are the big destinations.
I think one of the big limitations to communist revolution in iraq is the fact that ISIS is being supplied by US weapons contractors. The Iraqi army is under equipped and can't even pay their soldiers. It's all controlled by corrupt local warlords though, so a Chinese "kill the landlords" situation could happen, and the people could use that as a uniting force to push back ISIS, but while the US is involved, it won't be easy.
You should try putting him in contact with comrade Hakim. He might be able to help point him in the right direction regionally speaking.
I'm assuming the Iraqi kid you're talking to is still living in Iraq, in which case I'm suggesting that it might help him out if you direct him to a fellow countryman, especially one as knowledgeable as Comrade Hakim.
9/11 was just when all barrels were pointed there
In more ways than one.
I get the impression OBL thought the US was too decadent and immoral for this to be a realistic outcome.
The WTC had more impact than Langley or the Pentagon. There were a lot of the managerial and financial elite of the country and even more contacts and friends of those elites. OBL rightfully thought that the empire and the economy, as well as the market players were part of the US hegemony.
Finances are dual use, no different than sinking enemy merchant shipping
A second American civil war will guarantee that China becomes the hegemonic world power.
I have no idea why reactionaries would want that.
There are 2 different ways you can take it.
You can say "if you take up arms against other Americans, the Chinese win", or you can sit back and watch them do it and hopefully not get gotten yourself.
The billionaires won't allow that (unless they are positioned to benefit). That's why Trump was banned from Twitter.
Some billionaires, like those with stock in weapons manufacturers and private security companies, would certainly benefit.
I guess you don't recognize this meme, that's where the predator drone piloted by the first female war criminal was
