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Their outsized influence in the organizations is a benefit for them, but in the long run imo it doesn't benefit them to have a table for everyone to sit at and speak. Especially in the information age. I do think they see it as a growing threat to sovereignty and hegemony and are at this point trying to burn it down.
Hello? Is this CPS?
Hyper-rational, or post-rational?
In practice EAs choose to work within a system that makes altruistic efficiency impossible. They don't challenge the system or build dual power. Why let their efforts be captured? Probably because defending the existing system is in their personal interests, even if it makes altruism impossible.
Conveniently Musky boy never wants to discuss why birth rates are falling, or what the consequences of global warming look like with the rampant pronatalism he so desires.
It doesn't threaten civilization, it threatens the world's biggest pyramid scheme.
So let's make more mouths to feed? If this was actually about feeding people then they'd be organizing to get people out of bullshit jobs and into regenerative agriculture.
For anyone who's familiar with compounding numbers, they do not compound forever in natural systems. (And for anyone who's familiar with systems theory, compounding positives - as they desire of finance/industry - are not necessarily better than compounding negatives. Why should we keep their assets compounding by manipulating population trends?)
Funny, I look at SK and see a right-wing shithole.
And when the average citizen earns less than US$5k a year, people have to do a calculation to see how many hands they need working to keep a roof over their head. But you want to
rather than give the average citizens their fair share so that they can have their own reproductive freedom. In the US people usually have many children because they are wealthy enough to have the relative comfort of doing so. That's not why people have large families in other countries are having children when they make less than US$5k a year. It's an incredibly ethnocentrist viewpoint.
Professional trolls lol. Maybe I shouldn't be reacting.
Like it's not already. People just aren't used to having to defend it, and even many pronatalists are going to question whether you can take care of 7-11 children properly.
Props to the Guardian for this juxtaposition.
jfc
So much overlap the Venn diagram is a single circle. He's literally saying it is an existential risk to civilization and spearheading a "solution" to it.
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Again, he's clearly not actually concerned about anyone's long-term well-being.
No. They cannot show that. They are not billionaires or trillionaires (or probably even net millionaires). They will not be the ones to command the next generation's labor. Their progeny will be at the mercy of the rat race, even if they are privileged. Their children will create unbelievable amounts of emissions with that privilege. And it's already been made pretty clear that final statement is in bad faith.
We're just getting started?!? I'll report back if I survive...
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AAAAAAAHHHH
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make it stop...
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god help my rage bait addiction.
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fucking lady can't take a sign
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not a single ounce of self awareness
e1.2 i can't stop send help:
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ok who is actually american and can call cps?
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This article is well worth a read - even if they are rage-baiting trolls, they have all the populist names on board with their project. I admit that as a result of climate change I have a positive view of voluntary childlessness in high-consumption countries, with a first step being reduction of (what Malcom actually confirms) the support that can make it almost profitable for for well-to-do families to have many children. Pay to help kids who need it, absolutely, but don't enable wealthy GRT eugenicists. That's my opinion anyway.
I worry that the left is slow to react to this white nationalist development. It's not just quiverfulls pushing this. And I cannot stress enough that war is the solution to an overpopulation of discontent young men. Are wealthy white people in over-developed countries having less kids? Well, maybe nature is trying to tell us something. We ignore it at our own peril. A double peril: That which nature brings, and that which our states will introduce when they no longer need a surplus of labor.