We all know the saying: scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds...
I expected to see a bunch of random strangers on social media complaining about the election and suddenly pretending to care about human dignity.
But it hurts to see family, friends, and trusted content creators going down pipelines not dissimilar to Red MAGA pipelines. For as much as they hate Trump supporters, liberals are becoming just like them.
There is one creator on TikTok named Seema R (@artlust) who I occasionally watched. I guess she has a career and education as an art museum curator. Occasionally she dips into political topics, and I never had any major issue with her thoughts on those.
I was going to share a specific video of hers from today, but it has been deleted in the past hour or two. She was practically foaming at the mouth about nonvoters, calling them anti-semites and mocking them for complaining about "gEnOcIdE" as if that is some childish complaint.
(Edit: Here's a video with a similar vibe as the deleted one: https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435258288767290654)
The shock of this video gave me a huge sense of dread. I think the election of Trump finally set in, but more than that, I finally let go of some silly hope I had that Trump's re-election would wake up liberals and realize the commies were right. But from all appearances, the exact opposite is happening. Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies. It's going to be a nightmare for the next four years and I fear that America is far more defenseless to rabid fascism than I thought.
theres not enough of us in existence to tear down and satisfy their bloodlust
i guess they'll just go after everyone left of neocons and fully disenfranchise like 90% of their party.
"I made a new third thing."
"New third thing, or just more rightwing again?"
"More rightwing again."
americans for the most part do not take communism seriously as a potential ideology. however they're very willing to take fascism seriously. so if liberalism failed them, there was always going to be one way things could go.
Most Americans in my experience don’t know what either word means. If you use either one they just make up something seemingly on vibes.
It’s a little more interesting when you describe policy without using the words.
Describe something communists would do: “Ya that sounds good we should do that.” Call it communism: “That’s a bad idea.”
Describe something fascists would do: “That’s evil” Call it fascism: “Not everything is fascism.”
Some people even use the words interchangeably as if they mean the same thing.
Most Americans think communism is when everybody earns exactly the same wage and everything belongs to the government.
all the liberal trans people i know are legit just nonstop freaking out its frankly very draining. a lot of these people are very well off so its very much a
situationim not trying to shame your comment or anything but for me if you are trans and you are feeling a lot more anxiety right tbh its not unfounded and i truly hope it doesnt get as bad as it has the possibility to.... so what im saying is if your liberal well off trans friends are freaking out a little i do have a lot of sympathy for them
i have sympathy for them, but theyre ultimately afraid of certain meds being taken away and a lot of poor trans people are already doing DIY. basically it just means these well off trans people are gonna need to DIY like the poors already do. so all these well off people think its the end of the world, but it really isnt, they just dont know everyones been building independent structures without them. and frankly, they shouldve been helping us build independently from the get go, being reliant on the cissies is a mistake.
true but i dont subscribe to the survivor bias political discourse
it sucking for others means we should working to lift up others, not being callous towards those who might lose things everyone should have basic access too. abandon this boomer mindset
? I'm helping them. Its not a boomer mindset, you're extrapolating
I'm just saying its a bit draining to deal with someone freaking out over an election when I know and regularly assist trans people living in ditches that have been failed by the ideologies these lib trans people espouse
the next 2 years will see a Cambrian Explosion of new species of liberal insanity, hold onto ur butt
Don't worry too much. Liberals are incapable of remembering history. To maintain their ideology they have to shake their brains like an etch a sketch every week or two and start fresh
I think I'm personally responsible for pushing a few until they snapped.
jk I don't think they're snapping so much as going mask-off. And personally I think it is better that we have clear lines in the sand rather than be weakened by impostors overwhelming our ranks.
One type of Dem is now lost (and was never really reachable), but another type of Dem will want to break rank and flee to other organizations now that the masks all around them are slipping.
Or maybe not. We keep marching on either way.
Honestly IMO (as a Klanadian POC) while I have to agree on some level, though I also don't think it's quite as stark as to say they will "always succumb to fascism," etc (however the nature of empire certainly makes it more often that way than not). As a generalization the 3rd worldists are almost always right, but yet I think it's important to not go all-in 3rd-worldist (to what extent "pure" 3rd-worldists who just dismiss the imperial cores altogether exist). Defeatism, even in the cores, cannot ever be afforded, and is also not wholly correct.
Definitely, anyone in the west with the skills, resources, or simply personal energy to offer would be more useful to the cause and humanity (IMO) in the global south, that said, if they were so inclined as to move (IMO).
but can I at least say that the POC living in a western country will not be these revolutionaries that can be easily spoken to about anti imperialism and fp?
Can I say that those POC, despite having their own valid criticisms and experiences with systemic racism, may not always be receptive to anti-imperialism and solidarity with the global south? That they might actually support imperialism if it means they stand to gain something, even if it means throwing the global south under the bus?
Absolutely, I mean honestly while the "always succumb to fascism" bit was extreme, the frustrations that led to saying it are wholly valid and sadly more correct than not (that's not to say it is correct however).
Frankly a shit-ton of POC in the west suck utter ass. A shit-ton of people in general wherever, but the west basically collects compradors and aspiring compradors from wherever (and some, I assume, are good people- jk jk also as someone coming from an immigrant family and technically being a immigrant myself, most or a sizable portion likely well over 50% are decent, whether they remain so or not or get co-opted by the pressures of empire is another matter).
'See, Black people can be racist too!!!'
That's you right now
I was one questioning your generalizations. I'm a 3rd world immigrant Burger citizen, who grew up in an American colony. You're handling this matter very indelicately.
Taking some rabidly online redditor here, deranged TikToker there to sully any sort of solidarity between races that usually tend to have solidarity isn't helpful at all. This TikToker herself is demonizing other South Asians for prioritizing the Palestinian issue and here you are using her to broadly brush BIPOC as majority racist (insane), anti-immigrant (insane), and anti-Palestinian.
Pretty sure 140 million people voted for all of those things and only a minority of them were PoC.
Your arguments either go in thousand degrees of abstraction or massive generalizations. There is literally zero difference between the libs making racist complaints about latino voters voting for Trump and you complaining about dark people not voting for him.
Either acknowledge that the entirety of America and its voting citizenry are complicit in the subjugation of the third world or don’t single out PoC voters.
'See, Black people can be racist too!!!'
Tbf that characterises what the other poster is saying along the lines of some “reverse-racism” right wing accusation. The person you’re responding to isn’t accusing individual POC of holding racist views, but pointing out that large numbers of them seem content or even gleeful to participate in the racist (sometimes to the point of genocide) system of US imperialism. It’s a left wing rather than liberal interpretation of racism.
I don't think these sweeping generalisations are helpful. Saying "these people" and that they "will always succumb to fascism" is pretty gross.
Yeah, isn't it weird that cloistered art people who by and large focus on aesthetic presentation with little regard or insight on how those aesthetics are or were produced en masse would indulge in anti-communism or, idk, anti the concept having a moral compass in the slightest.
I think she's more of an art historian, but that just makes it all the more devastating because she should know better
It's less about who they are, and more of the company they likely keep. Art historians are absolutely obsessed with aesthetic, though.
If she knew better she'd probably not have such a career to begin with tbf
Liberals are so fuckin mad about Trump that they're taking it out on the commies
Are you new? Not joking or trying to be mean, but history shows very clearly that libs will become/side with fascists over us every time.
Do I understand it intellectually, yes. I still held some hope. I also don’t like presuming that kind of rough deterministic forecast to things. Just because a situation kinda looks like 1918 Germany or something, doesn’t mean it will play out exactly the same way.
I was one of the people who thought the bourgeois ruling class would not let Trump win because he’s a liability. But now it has finally dawned upon me what the liberal bourgeoisie is going for: Trump’s win will be a punishment for the voters who did not turn out for Harris/Democrats.
The ruling class wants to discipline those who think they can punish the Biden/Harris administration by abstaining. They want to punish the minorities who went for Trump after being told the inflation was just their imagination, those who stood up for the genocide in Gaza, and those who sat out of the election for the Democrats’ lackluster campaign.
This is why I fully believe that Trump’s foreign policy against Palestine is going to be even more vicious than Biden’s - the ruling class wants to spite the people who failed to show their support for Harris, and instead Trump’s presidency is simply a tool that will be used to crush the hope and instill the sense of fear and dread and guilt into every person who refused to support the Democrats. You don’t want to vote for us because of Gaza (or any other issue)? Here I’ll make sure that you remember this decision for the rest of your life.
Remember, the role of fascism is to defend liberal capitalism under crisis. Trump is playing that role. And if enough American voters who sat out of 2024 can be scared into voting the Democrats again in 2026 mid-terms and the 2028 presidential election, then the system is merely functioning as intended. A self-correcting maneuver through disciplining the voters, if you will.
With third party movement now officially dead, the question for the American left is: what is to be done from now on?
Grab some stakes and push them through the chest of every vampire in this godforsaken place.
Idk my only plan of action is
. If nothing else, I just want them to feel pain. They've been living in nothing but constant bliss and ecstasy their whole lives.
It really is funny watching the internal conflict.
"Now i dont want to sound like Maga by saying this election was rigged despite zero evidence because thats whata maga would do and obviously im better and smarter than them.......but the alternative is admitting dems suck at politics so you know what fuck it they cheated and stole the election."
Okay so I found the video I originally wanted to share. She didn't delete it, she just blocked me after I left some helpful comments
https://www.tiktok.com/@artlust/video/7435666759027412254
Sorry, I am not familiar with computer
The helpful comments I left were something to the effect of:
- I couldn't find a non-Israeli source for "90% of Jews voted for Kamala"
- Even if that statistic is accurate, it is coming from exit polls, and does not necessarily reflect all Jewish Americans (in particular it excludes those who stayed home)
- She claims that we should listen to the Jews who "actually do something" and show up and vote for the lesser evil, but she is inconsistent by ignoring the many Muslims who either voted third party or didn't vote at all — as a form of activism
"Did something"
Uh no you lost the election. Voting for kamala turned out to be just as "performative" as the dems were blaming third party voters to be.
Yeah I unfortunately had to unfollow Seema R a little while ago. She was really scaring me in the weeks leading up to the election and it sounds like it has only gotten more toxic.
