thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]

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Cake day: July 26th, 2020

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  • This is a tired subject. As Deng said, "Poverty is not socialism." Do not fall into the Western Marxist trap of conflating the Christian veneration of poverty with communism. You live under capitalism, use it. If you have the finances to invest and secure a future for yourself, do it. It's not a sin to have money and be a communist, it doesn't make your political beliefs less "pure," this kind of thinking is imbued with residual Christianity that should be rooted out. There's a huge difference between "I work for Lockheed Martin and invest in oil companies" and "I buy index funds so maybe I can retire one day."



  • I mean the LTV is integral to how like capitalism and exploitation work, so the only "debunking" that ever happens around it is things like "hey why do things cost different prices at different times, markets and exchange are what create value not labour!" which is a point that Marx himself in Capital Vol. 1 calmly explains has no bearing on the LTV. You can't debunk the labour theory of value unless you think humans doing stuff to things isn't what creates value, which is frankly nonsense.


  • This doesn't have any numbers! Yes, 300k workers commute to Manhattan by car. Who are those workers? Where are they from? How much do they make? Overwhelming they're vastly richer than those that take transit, and mostly from outside the city entirely. As we've tried to explain, the overwhelming majority of the working class in NYC does not own a car at all, and their daily lives will be made far better by a lessened presence of cars in the place where they work. The working class of NYC may not all live in Manhattan, but a good very many do commute to Manhattan and walk around during the week. Implementing a congestion charge reduces pollution and pedestrian deaths, both of which affect way more workers than the small amount of who may happen to drive into Manhattan.

    EDIT: Of course you're linking to a Trotskyist rag that doesn't use any numbers outside of just telling me that 300k workers (again, that number is mostly wealthy people who can afford to park in Manhattan; parking alone is like $20 an hour, this has been shown by various different studies that the working class by and large does not drive into Manhattan) commute to Manhattan without examining what workers.



  • OK but you see how this is not really a solution, right? This is the ultraleft position of "if we can't do the best possible thing we shouldn't do anything at all." Congestion pricing discourages cars from entering the city and is a step towards a private car ban. The MTA does not control the bridges or tunnels into Manhattan, that's the Port Authority, so they're not in a position to ever ban or affect cars entering or exit the city. There's no like perverse incentive this creates on the part of the MTA to support cars because they have no policy levers to do so.





  • At least as far as New York City goes this is wrong. Car ownership in the city is correlated with income; the poorer you are the more likely you are to not own a car and instead take public transit to work. https://wellango.github.io/posts/2021/06/who-owns-cars-in-nyc/

    There have been repeated studies (see https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2007/11/02/fact-check-congestion-pricing-is-not-a-regressive-tax or https://citylimits.org/2017/09/07/debate-fact-check-is-congestion-pricing-regressive/) that in NYC congestion pricing would not be a regressive tax, and in fact would be progressive given the composition of car ownership in the city. Couple this with the fact that less cars means a more pleasant experience for those walking and taking transit (the vast majority of New Yorkers, especially amongst the poor) it's clear that congestion pricing would be a good thing.





  • Yo what the fuck. Obviously Democratic governors are cowardly and suck etc etc but Hochul just "indefinitely delayed" congestion pricing in New York City, the one good policy on the horizon for New York and something that would have made my day to day living experience infinitely more delightful. This was due to go into effect in 25 days. It's been planned for years. Would've reduced traffic and air pollution in Manhattan by a lot. Cowards. https://abc7ny.com/post/congestion-pricing-nyc-kathy-hochul-start-delay/14912968/

























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