I’ve never heard someone refer to a European dish as having umami, it’s just upper class people showing how cultured they are by knowing the Japanese word for savory flavor. To top it off it only gets used when talking about the big three Asian countries. No one is talking about the umami profile of Vietnamese food. It’s the same kind of Anglo person who would read Sun Tzu while drinking lapsang souchong in the mid 20th century. Both are fine things, but together you know this guy is sad about the fall of the British Empire.
https://youtu.be/RrQVkh-gF4Y Look at this guy and tell me I’m wrong.
people absolutely discuss vietnamese food as umami all the time, read a pho recipe for once in your life
It's just the name for the flavor, it's more racist to refuse to use the word because it's a Japanese loan word imo? A lot of commonly-euro ingredients also add an umami base to their respective dishes, like worcesteshire sauce, anchovy paste, mushrooms, and tomatoes. Many dishes do need an umami component to taste good, especially places with a weak culinary tradition (br*tain). Just because white food bloggers are cringe doesn't mean using a Japanese loan word is racist
bacon is umami too and tbh that's 90% of what I hear umami referencing personally, then again I don't really look on the food side of the internet too much.
I’ve heard tomato paste, anchovies, and Parmesan referred to as being good sources of umami
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You can have one too :) But yeah this website seems oriented around struggle session content
It's the word for that basic flavour though, the one you have taste buds for. There isn't another word for it, so what else would you say?
Im not meaning this in a chud "oh people are triggered either way" but it feels like if a new english word was invented for it that wouldn't be considered any better but instead probably just being seen as westerners denying the origin of where they took this concept from.
I use it when thinking for myself while cooking, like "this sauce needs more umami", no matter if I'm cooking western stuff or not.
I don't talk about it though, I don't know people who want to listen to food nerd stuff.
I've heard umami used to describe western dishes on a handful of cooking videos. It is rare, though.
It has become common to use umami alongside sweet, salty, sour and bitter for all kinds of cuisines in German. That's a recent development, it has only become widespread during the last 10 years or so, while being almost completely unknown before that, but now it's semi-officially the "fifth flavor" and commonly used to describe a Thuringian bratwurst just as well as a Japanese soy sauce.
i pretty regularly think "this needs more umami" and among the things that might mean is that I end up adding worcestershire sauce to it. umami just means a particular flavor.
Acceptable, they refer to canned demiglaze as umami in Japan so you both are equally butchering sauces.
Bacon is the ultimate umami. Most of BBQ is umami flavour, they just don't know.
I got some and tried it, it’s like drinking liquid smoke diluted with water
Yes please.
I don't add anything to it but I also seem to like smoky flavors more then the average person. I don't think sugar would work very well but milk might be interesting. You can also try adding a small amount of it to other green or black tea, not enough to overwhelm the flavor just enough to give it a smoky backbone.
In vegan circles it is used when trying to make fake meats and stuff.
Literally I haven't heard of a word in Swedish to describe savoury other than umami, the closest is if you twist words that arent savoury into kinda being that meaning, like "matigt" which is just "foody/filling", so IDK what you want us to do about that. Or just call it salt but thats literally just wrong and just starts up the dumb euros dont know food thing.
I too hate it when people use umami instead of just saying the word savory. People tell me it’s different but then never can explain how
A lot of people would use Savoury when they really just mean kind of salty flavoured (like a chip), instead of the deeper back of the tongue "protein-y" feel of umami.
