I really hope they can resolve the problems between them. The Sino-Vietnamese war was the greatest bruh moment in Socialist history.
Working with the US to keep Pol Pot in power to own Vietnam
Vietnam's tolerance of people with glasses is deeply revisionist :denguin:
Everyone not China wants to play both sides of the conflict and the US is ramping up its intensity on it’s side in the region. Vietnam has a lot of trade and (unofficial) military deals with the US to the point where they floated leasing a military base in Vietnam and if you know about Vietnam’s neutrality policy that sounds crazy. Vietnam, Japan and Taiwan are all close allies at this point as well and up until the last few months Japan has been playing both sides themselves which you saw with RCEP. The US has probably placed a lot of pressure on Japan after Biden got elected because suddenly everything moved from anti-China but pro Chinese trade to just anti-China.
Just read between the lines here and you can tell that they are continuing the neutrality policy as they always have, but are more than happy to defend against Chinese incursions against Vietnamese territory since it’s China that would be impacting the relationship then.
maybe vietnam shouldn't have genocided the ethnic chinese they had there something...
damn I guess you're right, china "supporting" cambodia totally makes it okay to commit genocide against ethnic chinese
damn I guess its okay when Vietnam "intervenes" into Cambodia but when China has a border conflict with Vietnam its an "invasion". and no, the CPC definitely still supports the action and theres tons of movies in chinese cinemas about how good and necessary the action was
support means anything between recognizing the government to giving them a blank check for whatever they want. Its not exactly specific thing you're complaining about
Chinese sources, and I can only assume Vietnamese ones too but I don't know any Vietnamese, are much more detailed but trust me when I say it kicked off in 1978 not after the war. Also, Cambodia killed way way more ethnic Chinese than ethnic Vietnamese (there we're more ethnic Chinese than Vietnamese in the country naturally)
I'm not particularly an undying supporter of China but I've noticed that western communists usually take a hard pro-vietnam stance and entirely blame China when the reality is not so clear cut if I'm going to be fair to both parties here (I think its because they secretly believe china is revisionist for adopting market reforms, not socialist for spliting with the soviets, or imperialist for attacking vietnam) but I dunno I don't understand western communists and their weird ideological inheritence.
this goes directly against the neoliberal narrative of Vietnam being an ally of the US in a cold war scenario
Western states have channeled a significant chunk of Capital into Vietnam for the same reason they invested in China - super cheap labor.
The relationship is entirely exploitative, but it's of short term benefit for a country still struggling to repair itself after decades of war.
I don't think the Vietnamese are on anyone's side but their own side. Xi simply needs to put up a better offer in order to win them over.
Vietnam like all countries in this conflict plays both sides and is continuing its policy of neutrality here.
Damn that's dope. Anyway did you guys hear Vietnam just started putting minorities in concentration camps? I just heard it on BBC so it must be true
I just heard it on BBC
Just imagining someone with a giant dick in their ear
As best I can tell this is an announcement to be more bro-tastic in general but doesn't necessarily have policy implications. Am I wrong?
a lot of dipshit USians have been floating using Vietnam as a US base against China, so at least it buries that idea.
I’ve heard this was the case for the recent Iran-China friendship announcement or whatever, there was a pretty good episode of The East is a Podcast on it.
Reading the article, there was a bunch of language about “the two parties should do [something]” and stuff like that, seems like important people in the state met in a friendly manner, but with no mention of actual legislation or anything.
So good, but not really consequential, unless meetings and platitudes like this haven’t happened in a while
BRI means building a 21st century infrastructure network that spans three continents. Vietnam is going to play a proportional role to it's economic size of it partners up. That brings its own basket of risks and rewards.
Interesting to see Vietnam play both sides. How tied is their economy to China?
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/business/economy/china-vietnam-trade-soars-past-100-bln-4194048.html
