You notice the divide and how effective it is when speaking with Africans. Those that live in Africa tend to view China and other developing countries in a more sympathetic and even admirable light. Meanwhile, those that were raised in the West continuously bash China and constantly screech about Xinjiang and them causing the pandemic.

I noticed it recently in a discussion with Nigerians. Those living in Nigera were praising China and its efforts. Two Nigerians raised in the UK and Germany were quick to downplay any of China's achievements and claim that propaganda had brainwashed everybody.

Also noticed that it's generally Millennials and older that are pro-western with younger generations being more pro-China/Pro- PanAfrica

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    It really does show that the future lies with the global south. The west is firmly locked into their propaganda and would submit to the US over the sovereignty of their own countries.

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Couldn't agree more. Not sure if you've seen this image of the UN General Assembly Resolution on ''combatting the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism contemporary forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance" but i believe it speaks volumes about both the US, the west as a whole and the current state of the world in many regards.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I've seen it many times and it doesn't surprise me. I want to add that Latin America is a very mixed bag. I live there and it's a split between hardline Pro-US and mild self-preservation. Sinophobia is pretty rampant in Central America (where I live) with only Nicaragua openly supportive towards China. The others may follow through eventually but the entrenched evangelism combined with Hollywood bombardments makes me think it'll be a very long time.

        • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I live there and it’s a split between hardline Pro-US and mild self-preservation.

          As a Yank, it shocks me that there's actual support for the US beyond appeasement. What sort of opinions do these people hold?

          • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            A lot of American evangelicals do mission trips here that tends to come with Prager U level brainwashing. Mormons are also big in El Salvador. The US is basically the Christian equivalent of Saudi Arabia when it comes to exporting religious extremism.

            Now that I think about it, South America may have a more anti-American opinion than Central America.

            Opinions I've seen usually center around the US being a big and prosperous country, therefore America is the ideal to strive for. Propaganda is also really big here with some Panamanians saying the US invasion was a good thing. Like with Africans, it's mostly Millennials and older generations that love the US. Gen Z and younger are a lot more skeptical, but they aren't exactly Pro-China either. Their focus is more on having Central America adopt a more EU-style union of economies.

        • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          geopolitical game i guess. gotta support ukraine and almost never side with russia at all costs?

          • ComradeBongwater [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            ✅ Aiding Nazis

            ❌ Condemning Nazis

            Sends a clear signal. Whatever the reason

            • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              you'd think that, as obvious as it is. but nope. literally like 1% americans give a shit what the us does at the UN assembly though, sooooo

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Once America's cultural hegemony begins to wane, likely through a reduction of profits from imperial colonies (either due to climate catastrophe or China supplanting IMF loans), I think you'll start seeing a slow shift. China will become the most important and Chinese investment will be driving media creation and hopefully even news. Breaking up the media monopoly the US has will be absolutely critical to any sort of mass global movement and the death throes of the US and EU will be a horrifying sight to behold. I just hope no nukes are involved :/