It seriously is mind boggling how much fucked up shit they do and have a hand in. It's difficult to even specifically remember it all. How do we tell people about it without sounding like insane paranoid conspiracy theorists?

  • D61 [any]
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    The other commenters are specifically bagging on the "Tuskegee wasn't CIA" which misses the point.

    The government can, will, and does do things that are against the interests of its people. This includes infecting people with disease without telling them, setting up terrorist plots and then arresting those citizens (as shitty as they may be) when the FBI informant/agent has enough evidence to build a case against them through entrapment.

    So this is a way to prime the target with, "Hey, you know what the government HAS done shitty things. You know what? The CIA is a part of the government, so I bet they're willing to do shitty things too."

    • TrumanShow_IRL [none/use name]
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      The other commenters are specifically bagging on the “Tuskegee wasn’t CIA” which misses the point.

      The culture of keeping things secret and not telling anyone what you're doing and why...yes that's the deep state https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/deep-state-101

      • D61 [any]
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        I'm sure I've listened to it at some point but I have shitty memory.

        Is the point that the Tuskegee experiments were in fact, CIA?

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Tuskegee airmen experiments

          This is conflating two separate things. The Tuskegee Airmen were the first African American military aviator unit and, while subject to discrimination under America's apartheid Jim Crow system, were not related to the Tuskegee Syphilis Study which targeted some 600 sharecroppers from the surrounding area nearly a decade earlier and continued to study them over the course of 40 years. The population of the study wasn't expanded later, and its victims were prevented from serving in the military completely because they tested positive for syphilis during initial health screenings and the researchers running the study interceded to prevent them from receiving treatment and becoming eligible for military service.

          The conflation of the two separate instances of racial discrimination is absolutely pervasive, and I remember it even being presented that way when I took psych in school (and in retrospect that class was absolute rubbish and full of basic factual errors like that).

          • D61 [any]
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            Damn, Mandella effected again! Corrected my comment.