It seriously is mind boggling how much fucked up shit they do and have a hand in. It's difficult to even specifically remember it all. How do we tell people about it without sounding like insane paranoid conspiracy theorists?
Tell them about The Bay of Pigs first. Also read about The Bay of Pigs in-depth first and understand why Kennedy fired Dulles.
But then don't talk about the Kennedy assassination lol. Find a codename CIA project to blow their minds like Operation Condor and ask when the CIA stopped doing things like that.
I've been called a conspiracy theorist for talking about US involvement in the Bay of Pigs invasion ¯\(ツ)/¯
Start with things they know are true like Tuskegee, give them the deets, then lift up the sheet and show them that its one of thousands
Edit: I guess I had just assumed Tuskegee was the CIA
The Tuskegee syphilis experiments weren't CIA, and starting from there saddles one with an even harder task, which is to convince the person that the United States is not only fundamentally evil and racist, but evil and racist in a way which has not and cannot be extricated or expunged from the powers that have long shaped its history and continue to do so today.
it's so hard to convince people that the soulless nerds who begged Jeffrey Epstein for research money also agree with his eugenics fascism :epstein:
See, this sounds like something a disinformation agent would say. Deliberately confusing things with easily debunked theory. Tuskegee wasn't CIA, and a post like this makes it easy for someone to post a reply with citations and facts, and concluding with a discrediting smear that the CIA doesn't do these sorts of things.
The other commenters are specifically bagging on the "Tuskegee wasn't CIA" which misses the point.
The government can, will, and does do things that are against the interests of its people. This includes infecting people with disease without telling them, setting up terrorist plots and then arresting those citizens (as shitty as they may be) when the FBI informant/agent has enough evidence to build a case against them through entrapment.
So this is a way to prime the target with, "Hey, you know what the government HAS done shitty things. You know what? The CIA is a part of the government, so I bet they're willing to do shitty things too."
The other commenters are specifically bagging on the “Tuskegee wasn’t CIA” which misses the point.
The culture of keeping things secret and not telling anyone what you're doing and why...yes that's the deep state https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/deep-state-101
I'm sure I've listened to it at some point but I have shitty memory.
Is the point that the Tuskegee experiments were in fact, CIA?
Tuskegee airmen experiments
This is conflating two separate things. The Tuskegee Airmen were the first African American military aviator unit and, while subject to discrimination under America's apartheid Jim Crow system, were not related to the Tuskegee Syphilis Study which targeted some 600 sharecroppers from the surrounding area nearly a decade earlier and continued to study them over the course of 40 years. The population of the study wasn't expanded later, and its victims were prevented from serving in the military completely because they tested positive for syphilis during initial health screenings and the researchers running the study interceded to prevent them from receiving treatment and becoming eligible for military service.
The conflation of the two separate instances of racial discrimination is absolutely pervasive, and I remember it even being presented that way when I took psych in school (and in retrospect that class was absolute rubbish and full of basic factual errors like that).
Did they ever claim the bay area resporatory bacteria one?
Operation midnight climax is peobably a better place to start
