does anyone have recent excess death statistics, most local areas say something like 500 cases. like i see thousands of people running around at pride with no masks.... i feel like people are insane

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    That's why I said "this year." The doomers on here have been pretty much wrong about everything post-vaccine.

    • Segorinder [any]
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      3 years ago

      So really it's "and they’ll keep being wrong for internet points until they start being right again"

      You're using the fact that conditions have been improving recently to push people to ignore anyone who says they won't keep improving in the future.

      • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        ...Yes?

        "They were right until a major therapeutic breakthrough occurred, and are now wrong because they failed to update their priors" is not unreasonable.

        I believe the doomers were correct about government responses to the pandemic but extremely wrong about therapeutics. Now that the primary mitigation strategy is from therapeutics rather than public policy, the doomers have gone from being right to being wrong.

        • Segorinder [any]
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          3 years ago

          If you want to inform people about why you think an optimistic outlook on post vaccine covid recovery is justified, great.

          My problem is with rallying against doomers generally. Doomers are right when they're right and wrong when they're wrong. We shouldn't be pushing people to ignore doomers as a rule, because at some point they're going to be right again about something.

          Your post may not have intended that specifically, but the way people were responding, that seemed to be the message they were getting, and I wanted to push back against that.

        • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Except what you call doomerism is already happening . Vaccine escape variants are popping up with increasing competency. Infection rates are still high globally, increasing the risk of new variants. Most governments have given up on eradication, instead leading us down a path of this being like the flu - seasonal, goes after the elderly, only 10X more deadly.

          This is not a good outcome our situation, though it might be nice to have this current tentative reprieve if you're privileged enough to be vaccinated.

      • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If all you're saying is wearing a mask is good, then it's pretty obvious I wasn't talking about you...? I literally agreed with that in my post?