• AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    oh my fuck. that is actually woodrow wilson on that cover

    closest thing the US has had to Klan member president, a leftist.

    • LangdonAlger [any]
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      3 years ago

      hey now, truman joined the klan back in missouri cuz it was the thing to do for democrats

    • Rem [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Well the KKk, did u know, were democrats??

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      closest thing the US has had to Klan member president

      William McKinley Erasure.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          It has been alleged that McKinley, Wilson, Harding, and Truman were all members.

          But there is nothing definitely linking McKinley.

          • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Mckinley specifically only turns up in articles about an article that google was grabbing and quick-answering that he was. and the man died before the second wave of the klan. highly unlikely he was

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    3 years ago

    Jesus fucking christ. I mean, i know its still absolutely bullshit to call them out, but at least lenin and stalin had bodycounts; i can kind of understand hating them if you're an ahistoric lib. But my man Nietzsche didn't do shit, all he did was write a few books and then get taken advantage of by a literal nazi while he was disabled and/or dead.

    Its a small thing i guess but i'm legit so salty about what history, his sister, and the nazis did to a guy that basically just amounts to a poetic emo :angery:

    • Rem [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Nietzsche

      I thought that was Trotsky lmao

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      But my man Nietzsche didn’t do shit, all he did was write a few books

      Coming from the folks that think Karl Marx murdered 100 Zillion people...

      This is just the history nerd's equivalent of Fighting Your Dad. Pick a few top names in history. Be mad at them. Claim you don't like murder. Use this to justify a new generation of murders. Have kids. Raise them to hate Ayn Rand, Margaret Thatcher, Howard Zinn, Fidel Castro, and Deng Xiaoping in equal measure.. Repeat.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Who is the guy between FDR and Nietzsche?

    Also Hegel made it on the board but not Marx, lol.

      • Rem [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Isn’t he like, a founding conservative ethics guy? Someone told me that Idk if that's legit.

        • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The enlightenment era philosophers are ambiguous enough where you can mold them into whatever you'd like. There's stuff within Kant's writing that can't be read as anything except a criticism of what would later be coined as capitalism. Then you have his views on morality which can be seen as diametrically opposed to Marx's analysis of how morality is shaped by material realities

      • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Oh yes, Kant kind of has generic 18th century white guy face, no swag, unlike my man Robespierre.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's Immanuel Kant, I recognize it from one of my shitty books. Unclear on how exactly he's related to "the left", but I'm also unclear on what the fuck these clowns think the left is.

      *EDIT I thought the person i was replying to said "center" and I didn't see the "-left" part, Kant is in the center and FDR is the guy on the center-left.

      • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Hegel expounded on a lot of Kant's work, and Marx and Engels expounded on Hegel expounding on Kant and then Lenin had something to say about it too and suddenly Kant is a communist

        • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          My favorite Kant story is where he's talking to a priest about how much women suck and are bad, and a black dude working on a nearby roof is like "See? You fucked up when you gave those broads any rights. If you guys hadn't fucked up and given them any rights, they wouldn't be able to do all this shit that pisses you guys off." Kant responded by pointing out that the black guy was black, and therefore everything he said had to be "quite stupid".

          • EDIT I'm pretty sure Kant was the one who said asian people were incapable of morality as well, but i could be wrong, it's been years.
        • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah, I thought the person said center and didn't see the "-left" part.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      They were all murderous leftists.

      If you want me to explain, you need to buy my book.