Standard containment board stuff: Confining Vaush talk to The Dunk Tank will make it a de facto Vaush-dunking board, since complaining about Vaush is far more popular than The Dunk Tank itself right now. Dunking on Vaush seems pretty popular on the internet at large, so that board may drive new people to the site who were looking for a place to dunk on him. "People who came here to dunk on Vaush" may become a noticeable portion of the overall site's community. (The other most likely scenario is that the board is too inactive, and nobody is allowed to dunk on Vaush elsewhere, so Vaush-dunking goes away.)
A possible bad case to watch out for: Vaush is just one vaguely left-aligned loser, so the community will get bored of him. Since it's a community dedicated to dunking on vaguely left-aligned losers, they'll pick more of them to target. As standards lax, this may just become a community for dunking on people who aren't left enough, or just lefties with any excuse, drawing in new users who are interested in that. This sounds potentially pretty toxic, and counter to the lib to chapo pipeline.
None of that's set in stone, which is why I asked to keep an eye on it rather than to just not do it.
(Whoever's about to type slippery slope fallacy: It's not a slippery slope fallacy if you point out the mechanism by which things slip.)
What I was about to type was did you completely forget what the old sub was like. As a group, dunking on vaguely left-aligned losers is kinda in our rear-view mirror already. I don't know much about this Vaush character, but everything I've seen puts him pretty firmly on the "vaguely left" side far more than the "left-aligned" side. Frankly he looks like a willful saboteur to me. Anybody who says Lenin and Mao would have been Bernie staffers can fuck right off.
I remember the sub being more about dunking on chuds and neoliberal ghouls, but that could easily be biased by me ignoring things I find tiresome.
edit: And this new site started with a few days of weird purity testing and people looking for excuses to start infighting, so I'm skittish about anything that might head back in that direction.
A better solution would be to implement user level filtering. If someone doesn't wanna see Vaush posts they can put that in their filter. This solution has the added benefit of being immediately usable if any future situation like this arises. I 100% get that the arguments are annoying for the mods to deal with but we can't just say no Vaush posting. It has to be all or nothing. If he's getting moved then every other dunk should too. There is just too much potential abuse with a rule specifically for 1 person.
Basically if someone doesn't want to see vaush posts they should be able to opt out of that.... I think thats better than having to opt into seeing them... because you may have no idea they are even there.
You could randomly delete 80% of vaush posts or something. Or lock a post at random if more than two about vaush are in the first page of top 24 hours.
I've only seen this sort of policy applied to forums that are trying to allow memes without allowing too many memes, though.
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Sounds like a containment board? Please keep an eye on the space if you do that, because containment boards can quickly fuck things up.
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Sure.
Standard containment board stuff: Confining Vaush talk to The Dunk Tank will make it a de facto Vaush-dunking board, since complaining about Vaush is far more popular than The Dunk Tank itself right now. Dunking on Vaush seems pretty popular on the internet at large, so that board may drive new people to the site who were looking for a place to dunk on him. "People who came here to dunk on Vaush" may become a noticeable portion of the overall site's community. (The other most likely scenario is that the board is too inactive, and nobody is allowed to dunk on Vaush elsewhere, so Vaush-dunking goes away.)
A possible bad case to watch out for: Vaush is just one vaguely left-aligned loser, so the community will get bored of him. Since it's a community dedicated to dunking on vaguely left-aligned losers, they'll pick more of them to target. As standards lax, this may just become a community for dunking on people who aren't left enough, or just lefties with any excuse, drawing in new users who are interested in that. This sounds potentially pretty toxic, and counter to the lib to chapo pipeline.
None of that's set in stone, which is why I asked to keep an eye on it rather than to just not do it.
(Whoever's about to type slippery slope fallacy: It's not a slippery slope fallacy if you point out the mechanism by which things slip.)
What I was about to type was did you completely forget what the old sub was like. As a group, dunking on vaguely left-aligned losers is kinda in our rear-view mirror already. I don't know much about this Vaush character, but everything I've seen puts him pretty firmly on the "vaguely left" side far more than the "left-aligned" side. Frankly he looks like a willful saboteur to me. Anybody who says Lenin and Mao would have been Bernie staffers can fuck right off.
I remember the sub being more about dunking on chuds and neoliberal ghouls, but that could easily be biased by me ignoring things I find tiresome.
edit: And this new site started with a few days of weird purity testing and people looking for excuses to start infighting, so I'm skittish about anything that might head back in that direction.
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A better solution would be to implement user level filtering. If someone doesn't wanna see Vaush posts they can put that in their filter. This solution has the added benefit of being immediately usable if any future situation like this arises. I 100% get that the arguments are annoying for the mods to deal with but we can't just say no Vaush posting. It has to be all or nothing. If he's getting moved then every other dunk should too. There is just too much potential abuse with a rule specifically for 1 person.
Basically if someone doesn't want to see vaush posts they should be able to opt out of that.... I think thats better than having to opt into seeing them... because you may have no idea they are even there.
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You could randomly delete 80% of vaush posts or something. Or lock a post at random if more than two about vaush are in the first page of top 24 hours.
I've only seen this sort of policy applied to forums that are trying to allow memes without allowing too many memes, though.
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