Yeah, this is saying "millennials don't associate socialism with some big scary Evil Empire that kills bajillions, they associate it with countries that are viewed positively." That's a huge step in the right direction, even if there are a lot of other steps to go.
Seriously, we need to learn to take a W and then build on it. When the fasc gets Joe Rogan to repeat a watered down Nazi dog whistle, they don't flood the comment section complaining he didn't recite the 14 words by heart. They take the propaganda opening and then use it to push further right.
healthcare, social security, affordable college and affordable healthcare
You mean all this things the Soviet Union had?
Except for Canada. Marxism-Leninism Justin Trudeau thought is real socialism. They painted the leaf on their flag red for a reason! And Justin Trudeau painted HIMSELF that color for a reason!
Capitalism in the imperial core will sooner eat itself alive than abide by reforms that make it become more Nordic.
Youth in Nordic countries, among the most privileged to ever walk the planet Earth, feel miserable. https://euobserver.com/nordic/147365
Since when is Switzerland socialist? They're a selfish, ethno-nationalist enclave that cozied up to the Nazis and still have gold bars with melted down teeth in them.
Giving everyone machine guns seems pretty socialist.
Socialism is when you have a king with funny hats, or is that Sweden?
the One (1) thing the swiss have going for them is a very long history of no king :brow:
The Fins still have a monarchy too right? The bastion of white bro "socialism"
they were going to, but the Whites who wanted it lost the first election lmao
edit: rest of scandinavia does have monarchs tho dont worry
Canada does as well, we just use England's. They still officially own us
Man whatever works. These people are dumb as hell but I guess they’re on the right track
IDK about that, there's a good chance these succdems and radlibs co-opt socialism as social democracy and you just end up with eco-fascism or intersectional imperialism once the climate crisis really fucks us up. Without an actual organization to pipeline these people into actual socialism, it could just be a dead end.
You're right, but if we're going to have any hope of pipelining these people further left, calling them "social fascists" is counterproductive.
comrade, let me tell you a story about german social democrats and social fascism
I think the point he’s making has to do with fear mongering by boomers rather than an ideological statement (not defending him by any means, just my read on the statement) verses AOC using a similar line of thinking do denounce the USSR and Venezuela
AOC on Venezuela:
“I am very concerned about U.S. interventionism in Venezuela, and I oppose it, especially when we talk about a figure like U.S. Special Envoy Elliott Abrams here. I think it’s – he’s pled guilty to several crimes related to Iran-Contra… I am generally opposed to U.S. interventionism as a principle, but particularly under this administration and under his leadership, I think it’s a profound mistake," Ocasio-Cortez added, before moving to another questioner.
Can she be better? Yes. Is she doing boomer-tier denunciations of Venezuela? No.
Yeah but she walked it back
Here’s the quote I was referencing
Thankfully she hasn’t renounced Maduro, and has so far been silent on Cuba
Ocasio Cortez, sometimes referred to as AOC, was asked in an interview with the National Review if she sees President Maduro as legitimate, for which she replied, "I defer to caucus leadership on how we navigate this."
the National Review
When some conservative rag asks you "bUt WhAt AbOuT vUvUzElA???," why would you give them anything?
Why would you do an interview with National Review at all, even?
I don't think this was a sit-down interview so much as it was a reporter asking for a comment and getting an offhand response.
If it was a sit-down interview, I can see an argument for doing a limited amount of chud media. You might break off a few people, or at least present them with information that challenges the right-wing narrative/softens their opposition to you. I think this was essentially what Bernie was thinking when he did that Fox News town hall. But you want to direct the conversation -- you don't want to just field a parade of trap questions.
The larger point is that when people do some good things and have a good statement on record about an issue, we shouldn't interpret non-statements ("I defer on this one") as damning. There's no reason to portray something like this in the worst possible light.
