• JuneFall [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            If you aren't Jewish then your religion e.g. Christian offices will decide. If you are non religious you can just do a civil union like thing which got the rights of a marriage.

            Still outdated, but who am I to judge when my state didn't recognize gay marriages till recently?

            • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              I mean it’s still fucking weird that if you’re not religious but your partner is they basically have to lie and say their an atheist for you to get married.

              • JuneFall [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                Yes. Historically it was for example in Europe and parts of what is called the Mena region, that if you were Jewish and would marry a Christian you would be put to death. Since the same and the Shoa happened just a few years prior I understand how it came to be that law was initially created / kept as it was in parts.

                Not sure if it is right, but it feels as if the religious consitution of marriages was also a point that made the Christian fundamentalists support Israel more for their Christian anti Muslim Supremacy project.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          So then it's really still the government that grants marriages, it has just delegated it's authority to a conservative and bigoted religious body, resulting in de facto miscengenation laws and a near impossibility of introducing basic stuff like same-sex marriage.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            In Iran, draconian religious law is handed down by a group of clerics with unrestrained state power.

            • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              a group of clerics

              Progress will be when Iran includes Paladins in the exercise of power.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The point is that the regulations to a good part predate the state of Israel. Only marriages of same religion people are accepted, except for some cases. Accepted in this sense means recognized if the people (more or less) are living in Israel / are Israeli. You can also say that you are not religious and marry non religiously and it will be recognized.

        The things are messy, but not as messy as some people make it out. They are a consequence of in the early phases of the state letting marriage handled by the religious institutions themselves. Then the social conditions, their respective positions and the aims of the factions influenced each other leading to the current situation in which there is a part tradition, a part bourgeois politics, a part election politics and materialist power politics.

        So in the case of the tweet, yes they could marry. They just have to say they aren't religious or convert. Compared to the laws that repress our LGBTQ comrades in terms of marriage, child upbringing, adoption it seems to hit more people, but to be easier gamed.

        The recognition of ethical poly is also something typically not found in states' marriage laws.

    • prismaTK
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      1 year ago

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      • sam5673 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Well what you normally have their is both civil union which is the equivilent of a state marriage and religious marriage which is a purely religious institution