https://twitter.com/ComradeToguro/status/1434955687310893058

  • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Obama was pretty terrible when it came to interventions. Hillary is known for being giddy about getting Bill to bomb Yugoslavia. I can understand where the concern comes from. It's not like they're untested, both Biden and Clinton have decades of open warmongering on their records.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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      3 years ago

      Hillary was literally the Secretary of State under Obama and demonstrated herself to be an enthusiastic interventionist - arguably pushing the Obama administration farther in that direction than it would have gone otherwise. She publicly joked about the assassination of Gaddafi after championing the intervention in Libya, and facilitated a coup in Honduras.

      The only thing unique about Trump is that he was a wildcard with the attention span of a mayfly and the willpower of a sloth. Casting him aside, the jury is still out on Biden. These withdrawals are good on their face, but it's likely his administration simply recognized that the US is overextended and committed to unwinnable conflicts in the Middle East.

      These withdrawals are likely part of a longer term strategy to refocus on the Caribbean and Latin America. They've been rattling the cage in Haiti and Cuba, and Bolsonaro's inevitable coup attempt is approaching in Brazil.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        These withdrawals are good on their face

        They were also started by Trump. :shrug-outta-hecks:

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            And Biden was VP during Libya and Yemen. The US-led coalition in Syria started airstrikes when Obama-Biden were in office.

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                I'm not really giving Trump credit for anything here, apart from being (as you said) more incoherent. However, based on Biden's record, it's IMO wrong to say he's better than Trump on foreign policy.

                • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]M
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                  3 years ago

                  Yeah. The thing is, at the end of the day none of these people are innocent and none of these people have humanitarian motives. People committed one way or another to the argument about which faction of the bourgeois ultra-elite are better anti-imperialists are mostly navel-gazing.

                  It's fine to have opinions but it is borderline great man theory to put it all on one guy at the top at the expense of focusing on the vast systems and institutions which remain in place regardless of who gets coughed out of these pageant elections.