I am fully done with the Greens, and I used to be a huge supporter. Now they’re mask off about ‘trying to appeal to both the left and right wing’. I have no time for their ‘both sides’, ‘apolitical’ lib shit. They have never included ‘challenging capitalism’ as a part of their ideology, and I definitely don’t expect them to just start one day. Imo they’re far to the right of the NDP, and now just irrelevant seeing as all of the left pretty much gets climate change these days.
So, as much as I’m a little fed up with the NDP, they’re still the best party imo. You’re right, they didn’t march all the way to the right of the Liberals or anything. But they did choose to present to the centre, instead of the left, at a time the Liberals were presenting to the left, and it was a really bad look. Trudeau was able to basically snag all of the lib NDPers, and the NDP hasn’t been able to recover since.
They were the official opposition ffs hahaha. One day, they’ll form government. And I will be happy because, hell ya, their policies would be fucking excellent for me, and I think could generate a new wave of normalizing socialism, like we got when health care was socialised, and who knows how far that could take us these days
Meantime, here’s hoping Daddy Twodeau gives us that UBI experiment, real pharmacare, and legalizes shrooms lmao I fucking hate the Liberals, so they could at least pander to me a little harder ahaha
I think I’ll prolly just vote NDP until I die at this point, unless I’m in a swing riding and there’s another harper looming, I might be tempted to line up behind another trudeau to oust them. Hoping it doesn’t come to that and the NDP can finally form government federally
I do have a bone to pick there - the NDP has never been a big party. Their only time as Official Opposition was their biggest result. Mulcair's loss of half those seats was their second-biggest seat result, third if you go by percentage of the house. Even Singh's 2019 drop isn't really far out of traditional NDP territory. There's still room for the party to come back. I only vote Green when the local candidate is better.
I can't bring myself to get more involved in elections than voting at this point though. I did some organizing and direct action right before COVID and I'd much rather get back into that than sit around waiting for another election.
That’s a really great point. No one expected that orange wave to sweep Quebec, not even the Quebecois NDP candidates haha, and everyone correctly expected it to subside.
I’ve supported Green candidates when they’ve actually had a shot, but generally just can’t support the party. Capitalism is just too ingrained in their ideology. They want like adam smith era capitalism, and I just can’t haha
I hear you though, I’ve been turned away from doing work in elections. If there’s ever another super critical moment like getting harper out or something I might again, but until then I’m fine just putting like a half hour of my life into going to a poll and ticking a box. If the NDP manages to position itself as a threat again, I could see myself getting involved
I also did some organizing and direct action before covid, because shutting down canada in solidarity with Indigenous peoples is based :red-fist:
I am fully done with the Greens, and I used to be a huge supporter. Now they’re mask off about ‘trying to appeal to both the left and right wing’. I have no time for their ‘both sides’, ‘apolitical’ lib shit. They have never included ‘challenging capitalism’ as a part of their ideology, and I definitely don’t expect them to just start one day. Imo they’re far to the right of the NDP, and now just irrelevant seeing as all of the left pretty much gets climate change these days.
So, as much as I’m a little fed up with the NDP, they’re still the best party imo. You’re right, they didn’t march all the way to the right of the Liberals or anything. But they did choose to present to the centre, instead of the left, at a time the Liberals were presenting to the left, and it was a really bad look. Trudeau was able to basically snag all of the lib NDPers, and the NDP hasn’t been able to recover since.
They were the official opposition ffs hahaha. One day, they’ll form government. And I will be happy because, hell ya, their policies would be fucking excellent for me, and I think could generate a new wave of normalizing socialism, like we got when health care was socialised, and who knows how far that could take us these days
Meantime, here’s hoping Daddy Twodeau gives us that UBI experiment, real pharmacare, and legalizes shrooms lmao I fucking hate the Liberals, so they could at least pander to me a little harder ahaha
I think I’ll prolly just vote NDP until I die at this point, unless I’m in a swing riding and there’s another harper looming, I might be tempted to line up behind another trudeau to oust them. Hoping it doesn’t come to that and the NDP can finally form government federally
I do have a bone to pick there - the NDP has never been a big party. Their only time as Official Opposition was their biggest result. Mulcair's loss of half those seats was their second-biggest seat result, third if you go by percentage of the house. Even Singh's 2019 drop isn't really far out of traditional NDP territory. There's still room for the party to come back. I only vote Green when the local candidate is better.
I can't bring myself to get more involved in elections than voting at this point though. I did some organizing and direct action right before COVID and I'd much rather get back into that than sit around waiting for another election.
That’s a really great point. No one expected that orange wave to sweep Quebec, not even the Quebecois NDP candidates haha, and everyone correctly expected it to subside.
I’ve supported Green candidates when they’ve actually had a shot, but generally just can’t support the party. Capitalism is just too ingrained in their ideology. They want like adam smith era capitalism, and I just can’t haha
I hear you though, I’ve been turned away from doing work in elections. If there’s ever another super critical moment like getting harper out or something I might again, but until then I’m fine just putting like a half hour of my life into going to a poll and ticking a box. If the NDP manages to position itself as a threat again, I could see myself getting involved
I also did some organizing and direct action before covid, because shutting down canada in solidarity with Indigenous peoples is based :red-fist: