• DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    There are accountable to the party of the working class and have risen to a higher position by getting democratically voted to do so through their activity inside the party

    So can you cite some examples when a marxist-leninist leader was actually held accountable for shit that they've done?

      • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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        It's vague because i am not looking for a gotcha, i want to understand the mechanism that ensures that in an ml state the members of the party, who are clearly above the proletariat, no matter how much of this is only for coordinational or organizational reasons can be removed when they stray from the revolutionary path. Much like the USSR did in it's later stages.

      • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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        You cannot say that there weren't failures in the democratic centralist form of governing when many of these countries no longer exist as socialist states, with many of the ones that still existing turning towards neoliberalism.

        One of the key enforcement mechanisms of liberal capitalist democracy in the US is the judiciary existing as an independent entity, and I think that many of these countries would've heeded better if they didn't entirely rely on democratic centralism among the politiburo for decision making. They needed independent groups to make sure they were always living up to constitutional desires.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      Eh? Constituents can recall their representatives with a simple vote, at literally any time. That by itself provides incredible power that nobody in existing democracies currently has. It forces representatives to be constantly seeking to actually represent their area, especially as their is very high local transparency of government and a requirement for constant updates on their activities.

      If constituents could recall their reps at any time in liberal democracies they would be under an endless threat of repeated votes for all the shit they don't actually represent their constituents for.