Rewatching Code Geass and wow Suzaku is more insufferable than I remembered for the first three quarters of the show

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The show's pretty liberal in its ideology and abusive of Deus/Diablo Ex Machinas too. It's not a good show, even when I watched it as a teenager.

    Wasn't it the guilt of killing his father.

    It isn't his ideology that was annoying but his overpowered combat abilities in his mech suit and his hand-to-hand combat prowess that was frustrating. He was memed as Spinzaku for a reason.

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah it's definitely not an objectively good show, but something about it makes it easy for me to turn my brain off and enjoy it for what it is at face value. It's probably the fact that you don't often see media justifying violent resistance against a country that's somewhat of a stand in for both the United States and the British Empire. At the very least it has an anti imperialist slant

      • Spike [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Scenes like that turned Code Geass from bad show to entertaining bad show. Somehow its one of the most popular, highly rated shows ever and it baffles me.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      3 years ago

      I wouldn't call Code Geass liberal, they explicitly are anti-empire and show the people saying "maybe empires can be talked down" are wrong, and show realpolitik trumping liberal politics every single time. Lelouch completely disassembles the social set up of the empire and a lot of the class inequality, and that ends the military drive so they turn inwards and fix problems. Suzaku is the most liberal character and 90% of the show tells him he's stupid and wrong. The most liberal part is with Euphemia, an characters say her plan wasn't going to work in universe, so it's not like the writers try to convince you she was right in every way. It also worth noting a lot of his fighting strength in the Lancelot comes from the fact that it is just an absurdly fast mech, that's why he can overpower everyone else. He's the only one who could pilot it because the has really good reflexes, which is really not that much of a stretch. I would say the amount of fancy mechs towards the end of the show gets annoying, and they start pulling more ex machinas of either sort to make the plot happen after the go to China which is annoying.

  • Nounverb [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    He's a fucking scab prick fuck. Dude is a cop in the worst possible way. He's a delta force operator child soldier for the evil fuckin empire. Everything about this guy sucks ass, but the main character gotta convince him to stop killing his own just to get anywhere anyway

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Suzaku's thing throughout most of the show is his idea that it's not worth building a better world if you need to use violence and coercion to do it. And if he were just a regular guy with no stakes in any of this, that would be kind of an understandable take for him to have.

      But the hilarious part is that he is continuously lecturing on about that as he fights as an elite soldier for the side also using violence and coercion, but with the actively stated goal of colonization and oppression of the numbered zones.

      The only way to interpret this is to realize he's one of those types who seem to think it's not violence when the law says its legal and when the military does it. And in that sense he's a pretty realistically written liberal

      • Hoodoo [love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        The brutal empire I killed my father for says this is legal

        So I'm doing it!

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        This is very explicitly spelled out in the last episode, when he and Kallen and yelling out their ideology and he straight up says "but what about the people in the system, who speaks for them?" and Then Kallen Kozuki gut punches him to death.

  • Prozmar [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I unironically love Code Geass and its ending. Pump that corny shit right into my veins.

  • Hortener [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Is he in some kind of paramilitary? Collar tabs? Shoulder boards? A freaking armband? Does the writer not know the dark history of the armband?

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Armbands are fairly common in anime, they don't have the same connotations in Japan, I believe.

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      In the show he's working as an ace pilot for alternate universe Britain despite being a colonized Japanese citizen. I think the armband in this context is for a funeral, but still, I'm discovering a lot of fascist apologia in anime lately.

      • Hortener [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Japan never came to terms with the fact they lost the big one.

        I mean, come on, Space Battleship Yamato? Give it up, people. It was a white elephant from the moment it was built. We put 14 bombs and 16 torpedoes into it and it sank like a rock.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      3 years ago

      armbands are not just a nazi thing. He is working for a colonizing government that believes in racial supremacy though, so it's not unwarranted.

      • Hortener [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        armbands are not just a nazi thing.

        Any kind of character (or real person) wearing an armband screams Nazi.