Seriously. If Biden wins, we need a massive movement to pressure him left. I don't what levers of power will make the most sense, but the civil war within the party will be back on.
There is no "taking over the democratic party" lmao chapo is so lost sometimes. Do you not see literally anything they've done over the last 5 years? Establishment Democrats could literally leave the Democratic Party and form a new party and the media would immediately move to drop the Democratic Party and advertise the newly formed party and make it the new Democratic Party.
The United States is not going to exist 4 years from now. It will break down and become a failed state.
Ask yourself what you would do if you were in Syria a few years before its civil war began.
Focus on local organization efforts. Use the protests as a jump-off point, since they are a hotbed of current political activity. Propagandize socialism, form networks of mutual aid, create or join armed leftist militias. Participate in political activities with material effects like strikes, boycotts, or direct physical action. When shit hits the fan you need to be positioned in the most effective place to enact a socialist will. Co-operation is important - everything has to be a mass project. Be pragmatic, be smart, be opportunistic. Use relevant, immediate, and local problems as they happen, and address them in ways you can directly affect. I can't be too specific because it's about reacting to and pivoting off of your specific local context and the power you have to affect the grander socialist project, but be creative in trying to imagine how and where you should be in 4 years.
That's the plan. If Biden wins it may actually be really easy. Because the libs and dems can't blame it all on Trump and now have to face the system itself.
Despite DNC internet propaganda, a lot of people don't want to vote blue no matter who. Undertones of radicalization against the DNC started in 2014. Obama was exposed. Republicans went full mask off the past 4 years. Biden proved the past few days that he's not going to change anything. A lot of Americans don't feel like they have a party anymore. If Biden wins, there is no side left to blame, there isn't a more perfect chance to dismantle it all.
I would like to see primary challengers to every centrist democrat in Congress announce themselves early and loudly. Imagine a challenger on a megaphone announcing their intention to primary Schumer on a platform of GND and M4A. And simply using every chance to explain what that agenda means and why everyone needs it. Its our biggest weapon: the agenda that is easy to explain and everyone needs.
trump has to win for people to get fed up. if biden wins, things get marginally better, people forget they're in a shit hole, and the cycle perpetuates.
the idea that biden winning would push more people to the left than trump exists solely in your imagination.
a rapid surge in right wing terrorism doesn't push people left, it pushes them towards nationalism, and boot licking, looking for security from the us government.
The idea that Biden winning would cause things to marginally get better and people forget they’re in a shithole exists solely in your imagination.
If Biden wins, the mass unemployment will not magically go away. The virus will not magically go away. The GDP will not magically recover. People will still be fed up. A lot needs to happen and Biden already showed he’s not willing to change the status quo. Everything that Biden is lacking Trump is nonexistent if not being an active detriment. People have a better chance of successfully revolting under Biden than under Trump.
Seriously. If Biden wins, we need a massive movement to pressure him left. I don't what levers of power will make the most sense, but the civil war within the party will be back on.
You had me until "within the party."
The unspoken agenda for the left is to fight on both fronts: as a third party and to quietly take over the democratic party.
There is no "taking over the democratic party" lmao chapo is so lost sometimes. Do you not see literally anything they've done over the last 5 years? Establishment Democrats could literally leave the Democratic Party and form a new party and the media would immediately move to drop the Democratic Party and advertise the newly formed party and make it the new Democratic Party.
New New Democrats
Do you have a better plan? Because its an uphill battle no matter which way we go.
The United States is not going to exist 4 years from now. It will break down and become a failed state.
Ask yourself what you would do if you were in Syria a few years before its civil war began.
Focus on local organization efforts. Use the protests as a jump-off point, since they are a hotbed of current political activity. Propagandize socialism, form networks of mutual aid, create or join armed leftist militias. Participate in political activities with material effects like strikes, boycotts, or direct physical action. When shit hits the fan you need to be positioned in the most effective place to enact a socialist will. Co-operation is important - everything has to be a mass project. Be pragmatic, be smart, be opportunistic. Use relevant, immediate, and local problems as they happen, and address them in ways you can directly affect. I can't be too specific because it's about reacting to and pivoting off of your specific local context and the power you have to affect the grander socialist project, but be creative in trying to imagine how and where you should be in 4 years.
Make more people angry until you can nullify the power of the ruling class wholesale.
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That's the plan. If Biden wins it may actually be really easy. Because the libs and dems can't blame it all on Trump and now have to face the system itself.
Or they'll do what they did under obama and ignore it because the guy locking up the kids has a blue jersey
Despite DNC internet propaganda, a lot of people don't want to vote blue no matter who. Undertones of radicalization against the DNC started in 2014. Obama was exposed. Republicans went full mask off the past 4 years. Biden proved the past few days that he's not going to change anything. A lot of Americans don't feel like they have a party anymore. If Biden wins, there is no side left to blame, there isn't a more perfect chance to dismantle it all.
I would like to see primary challengers to every centrist democrat in Congress announce themselves early and loudly. Imagine a challenger on a megaphone announcing their intention to primary Schumer on a platform of GND and M4A. And simply using every chance to explain what that agenda means and why everyone needs it. Its our biggest weapon: the agenda that is easy to explain and everyone needs.
trump has to win for people to get fed up. if biden wins, things get marginally better, people forget they're in a shit hole, and the cycle perpetuates.
the idea that biden winning would push more people to the left than trump exists solely in your imagination.
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a rapid surge in right wing terrorism doesn't push people left, it pushes them towards nationalism, and boot licking, looking for security from the us government.
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The idea that Biden winning would cause things to marginally get better and people forget they’re in a shithole exists solely in your imagination.
If Biden wins, the mass unemployment will not magically go away. The virus will not magically go away. The GDP will not magically recover. People will still be fed up. A lot needs to happen and Biden already showed he’s not willing to change the status quo. Everything that Biden is lacking Trump is nonexistent if not being an active detriment. People have a better chance of successfully revolting under Biden than under Trump.
it doesn't matter if he changes anything if the media just stops showing it - which is exactly what's going to happen.
The media is no longer all-powerful thankfully. Did you forget the internet exists, like where we are right now?
oh yes, because the internet isn't completely astroturfed and controlled too. that's why we're still on reddit right?